Wikidata:Property proposal/Payment cards

payment cards

   Done: payment types accepted (P2851) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Payment cards accepted at venue
Data type	Item
Template parameter	credit-cards in voy:de:vorlage:vCard at Template:Listing (Q14330485)
Domain	WikiVoyage listings (de)
Allowed values	plaintext, comma-separated list of names of accepted payment cards
Example	⟨ Pampas Grill & Bar ⟩ payment cards Search ⟨ Visa Inc. (Q328840) ⟩ ⟨ Pampas Grill & Bar ⟩ payment cards Search ⟨ Mastercard (Q489921) ⟩ ⟨ Pampas Grill & Bar ⟩ payment cards Search ⟨ American Express (Q194360) ⟩

• Please provide a real example. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:40, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
  •  Support provided that the name is changed to, say, payment types accepted: 1) we don't need to know what cards every individual holds, and 2) there are non-card electronic payments, such as Apple Pay (Q18010990), available. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:37, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
    • I agree that the name should be changed to "payment types" or "payment types accepted". --Srittau (talk) 22:09, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
      • Same. Otherwise  Oppose. All means, like paycheck and cash, should be included. Thierry Caro (talk) 10:54, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
• From voy:de:Kuala Lumpur/Golden Triangle#Mittel:

* {{vCard | type= restaurant | subtype= midrange | name= Pampas Grill & Bar | address= 22-1 Jalan Changkat Bukit Bintang | url= http://www.pampas.com.my | facebook= https://www.facebook.com/pages/PAMPAS-Grill-Bar/170094094369 | lat= 3.147819 | long= 101.707561 | map= 13 | intl-area-code= +60 | phone= 03-21485548 | mobile= 012-2111480 | fax= 03-21485548 | email= pampasgrillbar@gmail.com | hours= tägl. 17:00-00:30 (Bar bis 03:00) | credit-cards= Visa/MC/Amex | description= Das Restaurant bietet gute Steaks und Fisch sowie eine gute Auswahl an Wein und Cocktails. Die überaus freundliche Betreiberin ist immer für einen kleinen, sehr netten Smalltalk zu haben. }}

generates

"13 Pampas Grill & Bar, 22-1 Jalan Changkat Bukit Bintang, Facebook, Tel.: +60 03-21485548, Mobil: +60 012-2111480, Fax: +60 03-21485548, E-Mail: pampasgrillbar@gmail.com. tägl. 17:00-00:30 (Bar bis 03:00). Akzeptierte Kreditkarten: Visa/MC/Amex. (3° 8' 52" N 101° 42' 27" O). Das Restaurant bietet gute Steaks und Fisch sowie eine gute Auswahl an Wein und Cocktails. Die überaus freundliche Betreiberin ist immer für einen kleinen, sehr netten Smalltalk zu haben."

K7L (talk) 21:07, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

 Support Sounds useful for Wikivoyage. --Srittau (talk) 21:29, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

•  Support but not as the example is formatted. Instead there should be one claim with individual items as values. Thryduulf (talk: local | en.wp | en.wikt) 02:11, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
  • I changed the example to multiple claims. Although we should probably create items for card types instead of using the company items. --Srittau (talk) 15:34, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
    • Yes, the examples look wrong to me. They should be using subclasses of payment card (Q1436963). - Nikki (talk) 10:33, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
•  Support supposedly Wikivoyage needs this. Maybe it could be expanded to any accepted means of payment (avoid mentioning cash).
  --- Jura 06:05, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Changing it to "accepted methods of payment" sounds sensible. There are some things that don't accept cash (e.g. buses in London). I guess the allowed values should then be changed to cash (Q693464) or subclasses of payment card (Q1436963). - Nikki (talk) 10:33, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
    • How about "no cash" as "accepted methods of payment"?
      --- Jura 07:39, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
      • I think a separate property ("non-accepted methods of payment" or something) would be better than creating items to represent negative versions of accepted methods (there's also places which explicitly say they won't accept American Express cards, credit cards in general, cheques, £50 notes...). - Nikki (talk) 10:34, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
• This should have qualifier "start date"/"end date" if known. --Izno (talk) 18:49, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
•  Support also cash and invoice should be included. We need a general super-class. –T.seppelt (talk) 16:40, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
• I am ready to create this property, but reading the given votes and comments is should be more generic: payment types accepted. The example should become something like:
  ⟨ Pampas Grill & Bar ⟩ payment types accepted (P2851) ⟨ credit card (Q161380) ⟩
  operator (P137) [[Special:Search/Property:operator (P137)|Search]] ⟨ Visa Inc. (Q328840) ⟩
  operator (P137) [[Special:Search/Property:operator (P137)|Search]] ⟨ Mastercard (Q489921) ⟩
  operator (P137) [[Special:Search/Property:operator (P137)|Search]] ⟨ American Express (Q194360) ⟩
  . And other payment types can be added, like cash, bankcard, paycheck etc. Please comment if I understand incorrectly. Lymantria (talk) 16:49, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
  • I think it would be more like "Pampas Grill > (payment types accepted) > [ABCxyz card]"
    --- Jura 18:31, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

@K7L, Pigsonthewing, Thryduulf, Jura1, Nikki, Srittau: Done as "payment types accepted" --Lymantria (talk) 05:47, 24 May 2016 (UTC)