Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/Strainubot

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

 Approved--Ymblanter (talk) 20:32, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Strainubot[edit]

Strainubot (talk • contribs • new items • new lexemes • SUL • Block log • User rights log • User rights • xtools)
Operator: Strainu (talk • contribs • logs)

Task/s: * import population data for Italian communes from ro:Format:Demografia subpages (which in turn have been imported from it.wp); all these have a source

  • import population data from other subpages of ro:Format:Grafic demografie. For the Romanian cities and villages, the source is insse.ro, the rest do not have a source (should I mention ro.wp as the source?)

Import data from Romanian censuses pre-2002 from Wikipedia.

Code: Still in the early stages of writing it.

Function details: You can follow the edits on https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2210 to see what I want to achieve --Strainu (talk) 21:24, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User:ValterVB imported population data for all Italian communes in 2014 [1] and removed them two month ago again [2] because of license problems [3]. --Pasleim (talk) 10:40, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the links. Does that mean that all eurostat statistics are a no-go for Wikidata? Eurostat allows all usage, but as long as the source is indicated. --Strainu (talk) 14:19, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I think that also for Eurostat there is the same problem, we can't use it in Wikidata. Eurostat copyright --ValterVB (talk) 19:38, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That basically means that previous imports by JWbot are also in the same situation. However, it's unclear to me what kind of copyright are the statistic offices claiming for data. Are we talking about database rights? If so, for Italy, where the term seems to be 15 years, I would say they expired for all censuses except the last one.
ValterVB, you said in the previous discussion that "Wikimedia's lawyers have never been clear on the subject". Have you actually contacted them? What did they say exactly? If this is a question of liability, if we determine that the only issue are the sui-generis database rights, I might feel confident enough to import the data myself.--Strainu (talk) 21:40, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
m:Wikilegal/Database Rights is the legal opinion and isn't clear for me. In conclusion section they said "the license should include a license or express waiver of the sui generis database right. In the absence of a license, copying all or a substantial part of a protected database should be avoided" --ValterVB (talk) 09:15, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it seems pretty straightforward to me - don't copy if protected and not under a free license; the only problem (as always) is determining if the database is protected. As I am not so well versed in the Italian legislation, I changed the request to only the Romanian censuses before 2002. For those, I am sure that any database right has expired.--Strainu (talk) 19:10, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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