Wikidata:Property proposal/regnal ordinal

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regnal ordinal[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person

   Done: regnal ordinal (P7338) (Talk and documentation)
Description(qualifier) the ordinal number used with this name. Generally to distinguish it among persons with the same name who held the same office
Representsregnal number (Q6898038)
Data typeString
Domainqualifier for given name (P735)-statements on instances of human (Q5)
Allowed values[IVXLDC]+
Allowed unitsnone
Example 1Q9682#P735 Elizabeth (Q385468) → II
Example 2Q38370#P735 Henry (Q1158477) → VIII
Example 3Q215064#P735 Heinrich (Q2018484) → LXVII
See alsoseries ordinal (P1545)

Motivation[edit]

P1545 seems the logical choice, but is already used to order different names of the same person within P735.

The proposal uses Roman numeral as these are generally written that way. (Add your motivation for this property here.) --- Jura 14:58, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

@Moebeus: I think we discussed this some time ago. --- Jura 14:58, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Nice! One comment: I would like to see how this will/could play with Sr./Jr./III. "III" is a form that's used quite a lot in the US, especially among parts of the population that are very far from royalty. Marshall Bruce Mathers III (aka. Eminem) being a famous example. Moebeus (talk) 15:07, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
    • @Moebeus: As we don't store only "Marshall Bruce Mathers", it's somewhat hard to apply there. Maybe by using "has part" as qualifier to Q5608#P1477? --- Jura 15:25, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
    • Sr/Jr/III etc are a generational suffix rather than "regnal" numbers - I think you'd want a separate property for those, although it would be useful to record. Andrew Gray (talk) 18:49, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support David (talk) 07:03, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Might be a good idea to have a property representing regnal name (Q1200976) as well - in some contexts, eg popes, these are almost always different from their personal names. Andrew Gray (talk) 18:49, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @Jura1, Moebeus, Andrew Gray, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2: ✓ Done, see regnal ordinal (P7338) --DannyS712 (talk) 17:28, 23 September 2019 (UTC)