Wikidata:Property proposal/armament used
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armament used
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
Not done
Description | armament used to commit an act |
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Represents | weapon (Q728) |
Data type | Item |
Allowed values | any P31/P279 of weapon (Q728) |
Example 1 | armament used → AGM-114 Hellfire (Q271930) as qualifier under manner of death (P1196)assassination (Q3882219) |
Example 2 | MISSING |
Example 3 | MISSING |
Planned use | as qualifier for describing weapons used for assassinations and targeted killings see e.g. Qasem Soleimani (Q892014) |
See also | armament (P520), Wikidata:Property proposal/equipment used |
Motivation
[edit]Enables better modeling of targeted killings, equipment and weapon used.--So9q (talk) 15:12, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- Support David (talk) 04:57, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment What's wrong with using armament (P520) ? ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:06, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- It doesn't fit. "equippable weapon item for the subject" this is wrong when we are trying to model that this armament was used to kill someone, not that someone was equipped with the armament when killed. See the example. manner of death (P1196)assassination (Q3882219) + qualifiers ordered by=donald trump + armament=hellfire missile is not clear. Who is equipped with the armament? Donald Trump? Armament is used as a main value to e.g. describe the weaponry a military aircraft be equipped with, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q816695.--So9q (talk) 19:58, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- It seems clear enough to me. But maybe some others should weigh in on how this should be modeled... ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:34, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- @ArthurPSmith: The subject is the person who died and they are not who's equipped with the weapon. If we want to reuse armament (P520) I think we have to adept armament (P520). ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 13:29, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose See Help:Modeling causes which indicates a simple model of HUMAN cause of death (P509) new-entity-of-"airstrike (Q2380335) using AGM-114 Hellfire (Q271930)" be used, or perhaps as an alternative a more extensive model using has cause (P828), has immediate cause (P1478) and has contributing factor (P1479). --Dhx1 (talk) 12:32, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm happy with the modeling you proposed (I added has contributing factor (P1479) to the article in question).--So9q (talk) 14:02, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- Support I think this could be used for armanents used to affect non-human items, so this can be used where armament (P520) cannot. ERBuermann (talk) 17:52, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose Agree with previous comment from Dhx1. Amqui (talk) 16:03, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- @So9q, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, ArthurPSmith, ChristianKl, Dhx1, ERBuermann: Not done: There have been no comments for six months, there is no consensus. —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:42, 14 April 2022 (UTC)