Wikidata:Property proposal/TLFi ID

TLFi ID[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes

Done: TLFi ID (P7722) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a lexeme on the Trésor de la langue française informatisé
Represents	Digitized Treasury of the French Language (Q3541344)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	lexeme
Allowed values	[a-z]+(\/[0-9]+
Example 1	huileux (L228281) → huileux
Example 2	tour (L2331) → tour/2
Example 3	pronom (L20414) → pronom
Formatter URL	https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/$1

Notified participants of WikiProject France. ~ (talk) 09:47, 8 December 2019 (UTC).[reply]

Support obviously, a valuable reference for French lexemes. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 09:58, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Le Passant (talk) 10:14, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Nomen ad hoc: est ce que tous ces identifiants ne devraient pas plutôt se trouver dans la section Lexème, plutôt que « Sens » ? Pamputt (talk) 10:44, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- @Pamputt: si évidemment et c'est bien ce qui est donné en exemple (L228281 et pas L228281-S1). Je pense que c'est juste une transclusion de la proposition de propriété au mauvais endroit. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 15:26, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - J'ai déplacé dans la sous-section adéquate. Pamputt (talk) 16:18, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    - Effectivement, merci pour la correction Pamputt et désolé de ne pas avoir réagi plus vite. Cordialement, Nomen ad hoc (talk) 16:26, 8 December 2019 (UTC).[reply]
Support external identifier. John Samuel (talk) 11:55, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment @Nomen ad hoc, Le Passant, Pamputt, Jsamwrites: it does not change the outcome, this identifying property would still be useful but how should we deal with the weird egde cases? I put the cart before the horse but it would be good to already think about it now. When I'm on a page, how can I find the ID? For instance, on https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/huileux there is also huileusement. A bit more tricky: we have 3 lexemes with the same lemma (for obvious reasons) tour (L2330), tour (L2331), tour (L2332) and the TLFi make the same distinction with 3 tabs : tour1, tour2, tour3. But can we link each of our lexeme to their equivalent? (and probably others cases, feel free to add them). PS: vu que cette propriété et cette discussion concerne le français, n'hésitez pas à utiliser le français ;) Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 16:54, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pour tour, tu peux lier directement vers le bon onglet en ajout /0, /1 ou /2 à la fin de l'URL. Exemple : [1]. J'ai changé un des exemples de la proposition pour refléter cette possibilité. Pamputt (talk) 17:21, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Et pour huileusement, tu tombes aussi sur les bonnes informations en tapant « huileusement ». Pamputt (talk) 17:25, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merci ! Parfait pour ces deux cas, y en a-t-il d'autres auxquels je n'aurais pas pensé ? Du coup, pour le format de l'identifiant, sauf erreur cela donne « [a-z]+(\/[0-9]+|) », non ? Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 17:57, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support David (talk) 14:27, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support -Theklan (talk) 15:08, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Nomen ad hoc, VIGNERON, Le Passant, Jsamwrites, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل, Theklan: TLFi ID (P7722) a été créé. Pamputt (talk) 18:05, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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