User talk:Muhammad Abul-Futooh/1

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Best regards! Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:37, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Too many edits[edit]

Hello, please decrease your edit rate. You are causing the wikis to lag behind Wikidata. Running multiple QuickStatements batches at once is not wanted and may result in blocking your account. Thank you. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 20:32, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, I will solve that in minutes, thanks for notification.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 20:33, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If you are going to do large batches of edits, you should ask for a flooder flag because you're also flooding the recent changes page. Also, please stop adding descriptions for the language "simple", we don't use that and you should use "en" instead. For some languages you're adding descriptions which start with a capital letter when they shouldn't (see Help:Description#Capitalization). In general, I think this would be something better done by a bot (which can add all the descriptions in a single edit, which is faster and doesn't flood the edit history as much), have you considered asking on Wikidata:Bots? - Nikki (talk) 20:45, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I added a request for flooder flag according to your suggestion, thanks for mentioning Capitalization rule. Concerning Bot, I am not that good at programming. Thanks again for your generous help.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 20:56, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You are still editing on a way too high edit rate (118 edits per minute). If you don't know how to program, please let someone else handle this task. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 09:32, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why not to limit the edit rate for QuickStatement to what is acceptable to API:Etiquette?!--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 13:30, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'll ask Magnus for that, but he currently has the flu. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 13:54, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to hear that. Thanks a lot for your help in this matter.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 13:55, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The English Wikipedia is now three days behind Wikidata. Can you please postpone your tasks for one week? Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 12:21, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Kindly inform me when it's safe to run the QuickStatement again.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 12:38, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked[edit]

You have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikidata. There are several reasons for this decision:

You are editing too fast which makes other wikis to lag behind Wikidata.
You seem to be fighting with another bot: [1]
You are adding wrong descriptions (there is misspelling "dorf" → "Dorf")
Your descriptions say it's a village but the items have instance of (P31): human settlement (Q486972). This should have been explained before adding them.

I (or another sysop) will unblock as soon as you respond here. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 10:08, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You've previously cleared that I should use only one QuickStatement patch at a time, and that's what I was doing, editing rate of QuickStatement is about (80:90 item/s) and you can easily compare that with my edit rate. Kindly check the correct cause for lag.
The problem is the bot not me as you can see in pages history, I started adding descriptions one by one using QuickStatement and suddenly the bot started doing the same. I was about to stop when I found that yesterday but the bot was blocked then, so I continued adding descriptions.
Noted, I'm sorry about the mistake, will be edited.
"Human settlement" is very general, and includes hamlets, villages, towns and cities. The items I'm editing are villages, which is much specified, and instance of (P31) shall be edited later.

Thanks @Matěj Suchánek: for your message, and I hope you remove the block as soon as possible.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 13:21, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed your block. Please be more careful and only insert descriptions that you verified are correct. At first, you should take care of fixing the wrong descriptions - I'm sure that the Russian is not correct ("Деревня в Йемен" → "деревня в Йемене"?), as well as the German and Greek one. Overwriting existing descriptions should only be done if they are obviously wrong. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 13:46, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, thanks alot @Matěj Suchánek:. I've check the translation severally with other foreign contacts, but I'll check it again. Does specifying the description as cleared before ("human settlement..." → "village...") is not preferred?--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 13:54, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not saying it's not preferred. But where do you know from that they are villages if the items says "human settlement"? Matěj Suchánek (talk) 14:03, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

All imported from Arabic Wikipedia where they all are multiply referenced.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 15:30, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Village descriptions[edit]

Just as Matěj has raised concerns above for your German, Greek, and Russian descriptions, I also noticed that your Estonian descriptions do not use the word 'küla', which is the sitelink present at village (Q532). Are you sure that the use of 'village' in those descriptions is correct?

If you wish to add a Bengali description to the Yemeni villages, use "ইয়েমেনের একটি গ্রাম". Mahir256 (talk) 01:26, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Mr. Mahir256 for mentioning this, You're totally right, I stopped adding descriptions until full assurance of them, now I believe that even paid translation is not precious. Thanks a lot too for the Bengali translation, I'll add it.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 01:50, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Flood[edit]

Please run only one QuickStatements instance at once and apply for a flood flag, or leave this task for a bot (Mr.Ibrahembot already works on this adding by multpiple descriptions at once). You are flooding the recent changes page too much, doing almost 150 edits per minute.[2] --XXN, 14:22, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for mentioning, very few items were missed so I ran only one separate batch for them for few minutes check, Mr. Matěj declared that before and thank you for your kind reminder. I've asked for a flood flag before but no answer, also this bot keep doing the same I do after I start it, it's the 2nd time actually without even discussion or mentioning, that is causing conflict on editing and waste of time honestly.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 14:32, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The fact who started first and who later in such case it's not an argument to resume doing the same one day later, despite there were raised concerns. If a bot is doing a job better and is running the same with a human user, then is better to leave the bot to do it's job. Anyway, it will have to re-edit the items you are editing right now and this is not good for the infrastructure of this site (recently there were major issues with dispatch status). You might want instead working on claim addition, e.g. for arwiki-related items without claims (by categories). --XXN, 19:52, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The bot worked in limited countries and finished, I'm editing the remaining items. My edits are completely right, why would the bot re-edit mentioned items?--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 19:59, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think he finished his task, perphaps only put it on pause or should reload another batch of items. It is working usually on items created for cebwiki articles and adds by up to 4 descriptions including Arabic, like here. Here is a item recently edited by you - is a item created by Mr.Ibrahembot for a cebwiki article, so I suppose the bot will re-edit it soon to add another 3 descriptions. You might want to coordinate these aspects directly with the bot operator to not cause each other edit conflicts. --XXN, 20:19, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'll contact him, many thanks for your efforts.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 20:23, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think is ok to add such descriptions? I think always it's better to have a description "%object / entity% in %country%" rather than such basic descriptions. It's better to wait until there will appear an country (P17) property in these items, only after this to add descriptions. XXN, 12:26, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I found many items with English one-word description, so I though it's OK. Anyway, I will skip these items for now, thanks for your advice.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 00:09, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I ask you again, please don't run so many QuickStatements instances! Don't be egoist. You are causing issues to other users. In last half hour my bot can't edit Wikidata almost at all[3][4][5][6] due to a high database lag, mainly caused by you. Not only my bot was affected by this problem, for example two other active bots, Mr.Ibrahembot and emijrpbot, also almost stopped working for this time span due to the same problem. XXN, 12:31, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Again @XXN:, I'm not running more than one QuickStatement patch on a time, you can very easily check editing speed to find that my editing speed is very normal, it's even about half than a bot you mention that it was facing a problem! You should apology for calling "egoist" when it's not true and your not even allowed to call any one that.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 13:19, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Via that service (wikiscan) it's not verifiably if you ran one or more instances of QuickStatements in this time span, as it combines all edits made by user in 6/12 hours. One can start multiple instances of QS for a while, then to stop editing for hours an it's stats will look ok on wikiscan, I think. Anyway, I'm sorry if I was wrong and you felt offended, but we really should think about other users. I'm a bit confused and concerned about what happened; while some bots paused editing while the database lag was high, other bots continued editing at a normal speed, and seems that two human users thanks to QS were most active at that time span, with you being the leader (I saw you on recent changes page, at some point in time half of the entries in page there for you, that's why I came here), being followed by other user, Powerek38. This is how looks the standings of users by edits in that time span - 11:56-12:35 UTC ~ 40 minutes:[7]

Top 4
User	Edits
Muhammad Abul-Futooh	2461
Powerek38	1936
Research Bot	1837
ValterVBot	948
... others less significant	by < 250

Is it right that before this other bots also edited, and perhaps this problem was not caused by one single user, but in any scenario you still be the leader:) I'm concerned that QuickStatements does not stop or reduce its speed when the database has a high lag, but I have to go to complaint about this issue to the tool maintainers or admins, probably... XXN, 16:22, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is not possible to check number of patches using the tool, but it gives proper editing speed as it counts only active editing time, so using multiple patches will show very high editing speed even for a very short time (5 mins span). No problem of course, I know that we are all volunteers here and when you notified me before about my mistakes I didn't argue, and take actions to correct them. I totally agree with you about limiting the speed of QuickStatement if it causes any lag or problems. Thanks again for your notifications.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 19:20, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

descriptions[edit]

Hi, Please stop adding the one-word descriptions they are not useful at all it is often replaced by more comprehensive description by bots, the country must be added to the description, but if it is not in the item, the best to ignore it, and work to add the country first. My bot is working to add the country and missing properties in the items that he was worked on it before, and some times it happens that you replace it by an incomplete description, but if the description is complete with the country it will not be a problem, there are some examples:

--Mr. Ibrahem (talk) 12:36, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, the countries were added after I extracted data, that why it happened, thanks a lot for your kind notice.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 23:18, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I know that, and for that I'm asking you to skip those items without countries until I or you or anyone add it. --Mr. Ibrahem (talk) 13:05, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Already skipped after your notice, thanks again.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 15:55, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

thanks :) --Mr. Ibrahem (talk) 21:50, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Block[edit]

Hello, I blocked your account for several reasons:

You are editing in really high speed causing trouble for Wikidata and other wikis in general.
More importantly, you were doing it with human flag. It will flood the recent changes and put even more pressure on the server. Per bot policy you need to get a bot flag and slow down your bot.

If you fix this, I will happily unblock your account. Amir (talk) 12:40, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Ladsgroup:, I'm sure there is problem of defining my editing speed, it is the same as ever, which is uncontrollable as it is QuickStatement patch speed (around 60 edit/s). Check here and check dates and times in my contributions history to make sure it is not me causing the problem.

I've also requested a flood flag twice but no answer, if you could help in this matter it would be appreciated.

Kindly remove the block as soon as possible. Thanks.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 14:03, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't understand what is related to "bot"? It's my personal account and I use QuickStatement patch.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 17:55, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's great to see all the work you're doing but -- following on from the above -- it's quite useful to have a secondary user account for QuickStatements edits (for instance I have User:JhealdBatch) and to ask for a bot flag for it, so that people who don't want to see bulk edits on their watchlist can easily exclude them. Jheald (talk) 15:25, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Jheald: for your words and your suggestion, I've applied for a flood flag upon your suggestion.--Muhammad Abul-Futooh (talk) 16:55, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Crimea[edit]

God Day Stop please make edits on objects that are in the Crimea. Crimea is the Ukrainian territory that Russia has anecdotally. Your editing in the Wikidatas, where you write objects to Russia - is subject to criticism in the Ukrainian community. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4427802&action=history For example, on August 19, 2017 قرية في روسيا instead of Russia it is necessary to write about Ukraine. Or do not touch this disputed territory at all.--Bohdan Bondar (talk) 19:22, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]