Talk:Q1754546

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Autodescription — paral (Q1754546)

description: grammatical number related to precisely 2 objects of the same type which occur in pairs (eyes, lips, shoes)
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P31 or P279

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Hi again Kolja21,

I'm not sure, what would be best:

⟨ paral (Q1754546)  View with Reasonator View with SQID ⟩ instance of (P31) View with SQID ⟨ grammatical number (Q104083)  View with Reasonator View with SQID ⟩

or

⟨ paral (Q1754546)  View with Reasonator View with SQID ⟩ subclass of (P279) View with SQID ⟨ dual (Q110022)  View with Reasonator View with SQID ⟩

I didn't know about paral before today and I've got a hard times to find references. The second seems a bit better but you seems to know more than me about that concept ;)

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 17:13, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@VIGNERON: Numerus is correct. Some linguists might consider paral as a subclass of dual but this is POV. With numerus we are safe. Here is a list of numeri we can use: de:Vorlage:Navigationsleiste Numerus. --Kolja21 (talk) 17:23, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Kolja21: ok, I'll trust you. Do you have any references? Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 17:28, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
For the use of "Paral" (German) yes, but not for the claim that paral is a subclass of dual. I created Lexeme:L2383. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:30, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@VIGNERON: This is a helpful quote by Wolfgang Krause: "Das Tocharische kennt fünf Numeri, nämlich Singular, Paral, Dual, Plural und Plurativ" [Plurativ aka Distributiv]. Five numeri not four + one subclass. I've added the quote to the Lexeme. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:50, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Kolja21: thank you, this quote is indeed enlightening. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 19:05, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]