Property talk:P296

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station code
generic identifier for a railway station, when possible, use specific property on certain coding system (e.g. P1378 for China Railway TMIS codes)
Description Identification code assigned to the railway station.
Represents Railway station code (Q14565734)
Data type String
Domain
According to this template: train station (Q55488)
According to statements in the property:
station (Q719456)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Example Central Station (Q15166) => CEN (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property Wikidata property example (P1855) or Wikidata property example for properties (P2271))
Tracking: same no label (Q42533434)
See also UIC station code (P722), IBNR ID (P954), MTR station code (P1377), China railway TMIS station code (P1378), ESR station code (P2815), Gares & Connexions ID (P3104)
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Proposal discussion Property proposal/Archive/3#P296
Current uses 7,817
[create] Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here
Type “station (Q719456): element must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “station (Q719456)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)).
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P296#Type Q719456, SPARQL
Mandatory qualifier “catalog (P972): this property should be used with the listed qualifier.
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P296#mandatory qualifier, SPARQL



What code is it?[edit]

Hi, what code is listed using this property? ru:Экспресс-3, ru:АСУЖТ or something else? — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 07:51, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

station code (P296) — АСУЖТ;
UIC station code (P722) — Экспресс-3

--Ahonc (talk) 11:39, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

How should we translate АСУЖТ ? Is it an acronym ? Ske (talk)
АСУЖТ - Автоматизированная система управления железнодорожным транспортом, automated railway transport control system, it is used in ex-USSR countries, some descriptions: [1], and about code: ru:АСУЖТ (sorry, I do not find on English). — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 04:18, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

"Local" code[edit]

The property seems to be used to store a code contextualy to the country of the station. I think it's a bad idea :

  1. It's imprecise and may be confusing
  2. We can't give foreign code for international stations. For sample London Waterloo International is :
    • WIT in British code system
    • LWO in French TT0020 code system

So it would be better to have different properties for each local code system. Ske (talk) 10:58, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Deletion Request 2013[edit]

The property was being considered for deletion: Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/Archive/2013/Properties/3#Bahnhofscode_.28P296.29 . The discussion started in September 2013 and ended in November 2013 with the decision to not delete the property, because there was no consensus reached. --Zuphilip (talk) 11:20, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Deletion request 2017[edit]

This property was considered for deletion: Wikidata:Requests for deletions/Archive/2017/Properties/1. The result of the discussion was to keep this property. Deryck Chan (talk) 22:38, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Let's re-shuffle the limits here[edit]

  1. The domain of this should be instance of (P31) "I suggest to create an item which has no sitelinks and equals to the disambiguation page national railway (Q2324835)".
    Aka should be the National Railway Authorities/Companies/Organizations...
  2. ...

Feel free to edit my comments above to show your suggests... --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:48, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226: You raise a good point... national railway (Q2324835) isn't a disambiguation page! It's a broad-concept item about "national railway" or "government-owned railway", often with a list of national railways in the article. But I disagree with the constraint that only state-owned railways can use this property. As I suggested in the PFD, it should be possible for private transport (train, bus, ferry) companies which have their own station coding schemes to use this property as well. I would instead propose: The domain of this should be a (recursive) subclass / instance of transport company (Q740752). Deryck Chan (talk) 16:38, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
I've removed the /w+/ constraint per my suggestions above and in the most recent PFD. Deryck Chan (talk) 22:38, 16 September 2017 (UTC)