Property talk:P1257

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depicts Iconclass notation
Iconclass code depicted in an artwork. For linking Iconclass codes with their corresponding artistic themes or concepts, use P1256 (Iconclass notation).
Description Iconclass ID of a topic depicted by an artwork item.
Represents Iconclass (Q1502787)
Associated item Netherlands Institute for Art History (Q758610)
Data type String
Domain
According to this template: visual artworks (and other creative works ?)
According to statements in the property:
work of art (Q838948)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values
According to this template: string with pattern \d{1,2}(([A-IK-Z])\2?\d{0,5}(\([A-Z&, ]+\))?\d{0,2}(\(+\d{1,3}\))?|)
According to statements in the property:
\d{1,2}(([A-IK-Z])\2?\d{0,5}(\([A-Z&, ]+\))?\d{0,2}(\(+\d{1,3}\))?|)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Example The Milkmaid (Q167605)47I22311
Source https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/rijksstudio
Formatter URL http://iconclass.org/$1
See also Iconclass notation (P1256)
Lists
Proposal discussion Property proposal/Archive/21#P1257
Current uses 5,362
[create] Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here
Format “\d{1,2}(([A-IK-Z])\2?\d{0,5}(\([A-Z&, ]+\))?\d{0,2}(\(+\d{1,3}\))?|)”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax).
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1257#Format, SPARQL
Type “work of art (Q838948): element must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “work of art (Q838948)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)).
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1257#Type Q838948, SPARQL
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duplicating information[edit]

The Blind Leading the Blind (Q1192570) is a painting that has two properties that contain identical information: depicts Iconclass notation (P1257) 31A41111 as well as depicts (P180) the blind leading the blind (Q1565024). Because the blind leading the blind (Q1565024) already has the property Iconclass notation (P1256) 31A41111, there's no additional informational value gained from having both depicts Iconclass notation (P1257) and depicts (P180) for this painting. I know there are many places now where we don't have a clear Iconclass 1-to-1 mapping with Wikidata and so it's useful to have both properties. But when we do have a Wikidata entity for all Iconclasses, we should deprecate the Iconclass properties and just use depicts (P180). Runner1928 (talk) 16:23, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

This was addressed at WD:Property proposal/Archive/21#P1257. And I'd be overhappy if we replaced the Iconclass system which is anything but perfect IMHO. Though they state that they have 28,000 definitions which is a nice bunch to create!
Commons often has a more finely graduated classification of iconography in its categories. I good begin might be do create items for the useful categories, add Iconclass notation (P1256) to them and make up the classification here with subclass of (P279) probably and to make up templates on Commons that retrieve and display the Iconclass notation. --Marsupium (talk) 13:00, 24 January 2016 (UTC)