Property talk:P1257

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depicts Iconclass notation
Iconclass code depicted in an artwork. For linking Iconclass codes with their corresponding artistic themes or concepts, use P1256 (Iconclass notation).
DescriptionIconclass ID of a topic depicted by an artwork item.
RepresentsIconclass (Q1502787)
Associated itemNetherlands Institute for Art History (Q758610)
Data typeString
Domain
According to this template: visual artworks (and other creative works ?)
According to statements in the property:
work of art (Q838948)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values
According to this template: string with pattern \d{1,2}(([A-IK-Z])\2?\d{0,5}(\([A-Z&, ]+\))?\d{0,2}(\(+\d{1,3}\))?|)
According to statements in the property:
\d{1,2}(([A-IK-Z])\2?\d{0,5}(\([A-Z&, ]+\))?\d{0,2}(\(+\d{1,3}\))?|)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
ExampleThe Milkmaid (Q167605)47I22311
Sourcehttps://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/rijksstudio
Formatter URLhttp://iconclass.org/$1
See alsoIconclass notation (P1256)
Lists
Proposal discussionProperty proposal/Archive/21#P1257
Current uses8,081
Search for values
[create] Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here
Format “\d{1,2}(([A-IK-Z])\2?\d{0,5}(\([A-Z&, ]+\))?\d{0,2}(\(+\d{1,3}\))?|)”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1257#Format, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Type “work of art (Q838948): element must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “work of art (Q838948)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1257#Type Q838948, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Item “image (P18): Items with this property should also have “image (P18)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1257#Item P18, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Item “creator (P170): Items with this property should also have “creator (P170)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1257#Item P170, search, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Item “collection (P195): Items with this property should also have “collection (P195)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1257#Item P195, search, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Item “inception (P571): Items with this property should also have “inception (P571)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1257#Item P571, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Item “genre (P136): Items with this property should also have “genre (P136)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1257#Item P136, search, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Scope is: the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1257#scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL (new)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Religious paintings without genre
Paintings that have a religious Iconclass code, but missing genre (P136) -> religious art (Q2864737) (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item ?iconclass WHERE { ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q3305213 . MINUS { ?item wdt:P136 [] } . ?item wdt:P1257 ?iconclass . FILTER REGEX(STR(?iconclass), "^(7
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1257#Religious paintings without genre
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Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)


duplicating information[edit]

The Blind Leading the Blind (Q1192570) is a painting that has two properties that contain identical information: depicts Iconclass notation (P1257) 31A41111 as well as depicts (P180) the blind leading the blind (Q1565024). Because the blind leading the blind (Q1565024) already has the property Iconclass notation (P1256) 31A41111, there's no additional informational value gained from having both depicts Iconclass notation (P1257) and depicts (P180) for this painting. I know there are many places now where we don't have a clear Iconclass 1-to-1 mapping with Wikidata and so it's useful to have both properties. But when we do have a Wikidata entity for all Iconclasses, we should deprecate the Iconclass properties and just use depicts (P180). Runner1928 (talk) 16:23, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

This was addressed at WD:Property proposal/Archive/21#P1257. And I'd be overhappy if we replaced the Iconclass system which is anything but perfect IMHO. Though they state that they have 28,000 definitions which is a nice bunch to create!
Commons often has a more finely graduated classification of iconography in its categories. I good begin might be do create items for the useful categories, add Iconclass notation (P1256) to them and make up the classification here with subclass of (P279) probably and to make up templates on Commons that retrieve and display the Iconclass notation. --Marsupium (talk) 13:00, 24 January 2016 (UTC)