Wikidata:Requests for comment/Abusefilter-view-private and abusefilter-log-private for rollbackers

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THIS RFC IS CLOSED. Please do NOT vote nor add comments.

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
I am going to close this no consensus. This RfC is stale and there is not enough input to make any community decision. The original discussion about this had more input. However Corucelles' suggestion for an Abuse Filter Manager right may be worth discussing in another RfC. John F. Lewis (talk) 15:19, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment relating to this discussion.

Iste Praetor proposed that the abusefilter-view-private and abusefilter-log-private permissions be added to the the rollbacker usergroup to aid rollbackers in more efficiently combating vandalism. These permissions would allow rollbackers to view filters that are normally kept private only to keep from viewing by vandals, spammers, or trolls. After a week of discussion and support from only a few editors, bugzilla:47503 was filed, but put on hold while waiting for consensus. I have created this RfC to seek consensus on if these rights shall be granted to rollbackers, and, if so, which ones. Full information about these permissions can be found at mw:Extension:AbuseFilter. FrigidNinja 01:34, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion

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abusefilter-view-private only

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The abusefilter-view-private permission allows users to view abuse filters marked as private.

abusefilter-log-private only

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The abusefilter-log-private permission allows users to view log entries of abuse filters marked as private.

Both

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Both permissions should be granted to rollbackers.

  •  Support from proposer, as I think both of these rights can be useful for dealing with vandalism, which is what rollbackers are supposed to do. Anyway, the only reason why some filters and their respective log entries are private is to prevent vandals from circumventing the filters. Rollbackers are trusted users who are definitely not vandals, so I don't see any problems that may be caused by giving rollbackers these two permissions. Regards --Iste (D) 22:05, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support per Iste Vogone talk 00:46, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Neither

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Neither permission should be granted to rollbackers.

  • Create an edit filter manager right, sure, but smashing things into other groups that don't deal with the core function of the group is inviting problems. Courcelles (talk) 18:04, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I  Support Courcelles idea above. — ΛΧΣ21 02:15, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose I really dislike the idea of so many user groups. Where is the point in splitting everything up? Regards. Vogone talk 12:15, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose I foresee requests for the abuse filter manager permission by good users who just want to view some information to combat vandalism, report vandals etc. which get declined due to reasons such as "you don't have enough experience with regex" or with a simple "no". Wikidata is not the English Wikipedia, and in my opinion we should do our best to keep work simple and easy here. Regards --Iste (D) 13:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

General discussion

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