Wikidata:Property proposal/population density rank

population density rank[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Place

Not done

Description	the ranking of the item's population density in the set of similar items. Envisaged sets are district of England (Q349084); non-metropolitan county (Q769603); ceremonial county of England (Q180673); Scottish district (Q21457810); principal area of Wales (Q15979307) and administrative territorial entity of Northern Ireland (Q17364572)
Data type	String
Template parameter	"population_density_rank" in en:template:infobox settlement
Domain	administrative territorial entity (Q56061)
Allowed values	[1-9][0-9]{0,2}(st\|nd\|rd\|th)
Example 1	London Borough of Islington (Q205817) → 1st
Example 2	London Borough of Tower Hamlets (Q208152) → 2nd
Example 3	Eden (Q301637) → 317th
Planned use	See motivation
See also	population rank (proposed); area rank (proposed)

Motivation[edit]

This is part of the same exercise as population rank and area rank and I suggest the proposals should should fail or succeed together. It will be qualified with a point in time (P585) and a new value will be added each year when new population estimates are published. Keith Edkins (talk) 23:17, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Comment "similar items" seems ill-defined. I think you should use some sort of (required) qualifier to specify the context; I'm not sure if we have anything comparable right now as a property. In principle if Wikidata had complete data you could just compute ranks like this, but I can understand it's useful to save them. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:19, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- That would make sense. I have added a proposal for a new qualifier property as I can't see anything existing which would fit. It has an additional use: 10 of the ceremonial county of England (Q180673) are co-terminous with a non-metropolitan county (Q769603) and share a wikidata item. Similarly 6 are co-terminous with a district of England (Q349084). With this qualifier the items can be simultaneously ranked in 2 different contexts and the correct value retrieved when required. Keith Edkins (talk) 16:54, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thanks - I think it makes sense then, so Support for this also. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:16, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I wonder whether it would be better, from the viewpoint of potential internationalisation, to just store the number and use the {{Ordinal}} template on it to generate (in English) the st-nd-rd-th suffix. Keith Edkins (talk) 17:00, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose See Wikidata:Property_proposal/population_rank. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 22:03, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]