Wikidata:Property proposal/objective of a project or mission

objective of a project or mission

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Done: has goal (P3712) (Talk and documentation)

Description	desired result or outcome
Represents	goal (Q4503831)
Data type	Item
Domain	projects, missions?, events, projects, games, life (kidding)
Allowed values	device, discovery, process, change, discovery
Example	Manhattan Project (Q127050) → nuclear bomb (Q9177152)
Planned use	Adding the desired outcome to well-known projects, search for projects with a specific goal
Robot and gadget jobs	yes, if there are bots that can figure out the goal of a projects (f.e. from their Wikipedia page)

Motivation

better categorizing of project by goal, allows to search for failed attempts to do something or similar requests  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by SparkyC0la (talk • contribs) at 1 February 2017‎ (UTC).

Discussion

•  Support We have a number of properties expressing causal and temporal relationships (has effect (P1542), immediate cause of (P1536), contributing factor of (P1537), followed by (P156)), but none that I'm aware of expresses intent. --Swpb (talk) 16:32, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
•  Support I think I support this, however I'm struggling to think of another example that would work in this fashion, with an item as target value and not immediately obvious - Human genome project - human genome? Also perhaps the name should be shortened to just "objective"? ArthurPSmith (talk) 20:13, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
  • "Objective" would be more generic, but runs the risk of ambiguity with the other meanings of the word, namely grammatical and optical. The indefinite article should be dropped though. Is it really a problem if the target item is obvious to a human? If a project and its aim have separate items, shouldn't they be explicitly linked, even if their names suggest the link to a human reader? --Swpb (talk) 13:44, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

•  Done @SparkyC0la, Swpb: please make good use of it.
  --- Jura 10:18, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

@SparkyC0la, ArthurPSmith, Jura1: Have started applying the property in a few places, and a thought occurred. How can we express whether a mission or project succeeded in its goal? It's certainly valuable to say that the mission of item A is/was item B, but that doesn't entail whether B has actually been achieved (or in some cases, partially achieved). Ideas? Swpb (talk) 15:21, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Not sure. For sports, there is results (P2501), but that serves to link lists.
--- Jura 15:48, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Actually, not sure if it actually serves. It has one use and that isn't linked to sports.
--- Jura 15:50, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

An answer that sometimes works is to just add a second statement with has effect (P1542), product or material produced or service provided (P1056), or similar, with (in most cases) the same value as the has goal (P3712) statement. However, this doesn't cover cases of failure. Swpb (talk) 16:17, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Or use a qualifier has effect (P1542) with value success (Q7632586), failure (Q1121708), etc. Swpb (talk) 16:56, 27 February 2017 (UTC)