Wikidata:Property proposal/Kunya

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   Under discussion
RepresentsKunya (Q1285470)
Data typeMonolingual text
Example 1Abu Bakr (Q334923) → أبو بكر (Arabic)
Example 2Umar ibn Al-Khattāb (Q8467) → أبو حفص (Arabic)
Example 3Uthman ibn Affan (Q37731) → أبو عبد الله (Arabic)
See alsonickname (P1449) and name in native language (P1559)


(I am submitting this request on behalf of @Abu aamir: who requested my help to create this request. I am neutral as whether this property should be created or not.)

Hello I propose adding Kunya, within the entries of wikidata, provided that it needs to be cited, in Arabic, people are known and called by one or two or 3 of the three names types, namely, the personal name, the Kunya, and the title,for instance the first Muslim Caliph was know by his Kunya Abu Bakr, there are so many Muslims, arabs and non-arabs who are best know by their Kunyas, adding this entry is essential to understand and distinguish between proper names by which Arabs are called, moreover, most of contemporary Eastern ِArabs are called by their Kunya including not limited to politicians and notable people, and almost all Arabs of pre-colonial periods were called by their Kunyas, the Kunya has its own article in Arabic and English --Abu aamir (talk) 14:59, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Notes from me (Meno25):


@Meno25: Existing naming properties like family name (P734), given name (P735) and second family name in Spanish name (P1950) use the item type and not monolingual text. Do you see a reason why the monolingual text data-type would be better for this property? ChristianKl❫ 17:19, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

@ChristianKl: Not at all. I was hesitant when creating this request about the data type to use: monolingual text or item. The reason I used the former was just to save time. (If we used the "item" data type, then we need to create potentially hundreds of new items for different Arabic kunyas, as we don't have any currently on Wikidata, before we are able to add the kunyas to currently existing items about people. Also, please note that I am not an information scientist, who would be able to answer this question about how to store the information better than me.) --Meno25 (talk) 20:07, 18 June 2020 (UTC)