Wikidata:Property proposal/valency
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valency
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes
Description | number of arguments controlled by a verbal predicate |
---|---|
Represents | valency (Q1412952) |
Data type | Quantity |
Domain | lexemes |
Allowed units | none |
Example 1 | pleuvoir (L1917) → 0 |
Example 2 | dormir (L5133) → 1 |
Example 3 | manger (L309) → 2 |
Example 4 | donner (L5134) → 3 |
Example 5 | traduire (L5135) → 4 |
Motivation
(Add your motivation for this property here.)
--- Jura 05:28, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
@Paweł Ziemian, Милан Јелисавчић, Infovarius, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Was a bee: you might be interested as this could provide a different aspect of verbs, compared to has conjugation class.
--- Jura 04:13, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
Discussion
- I cannot vote because I know nothing about it. This is the first time I see valency (Q1412952).
It must be is very, very new concept in Polish.Paweł Ziemian (talk) 15:24, 8 July 2018 (UTC) I deleted last sentence due to my first sentence. Paweł Ziemian (talk) 19:04, 8 July 2018 (UTC)- @Paweł Ziemian: It seems that people from Institute of Computer Science, Polish Academy of Sciences (Q11713162) created dictionary Walenty which is electronic valence dictionary of Polish, see http://nlp.ipipan.waw.pl/Bib/haj:etal:15.pdf but I don't see clear numerical values for this property in document. KaMan (talk) 07:20, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Weak support This seems a useful categorization, but perhaps it can best be handled with instance of (P31) rather than a separate property? Also I'm not sure quantity value is right - does everybody agree on what the numbers should be? ArthurPSmith (talk) 13:58, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support --Lymantria (talk) 08:49, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support useful, though I'm not sure how to best model the interaction of the valency with senses. In some cases, a sense may apply only for usage with a specific valency. We have a similar issue with reflexive vs irreflexive use of verbs -- Duesentrieb (talk) 13:09, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Jura1, Paweł Ziemian, KaMan, ArthurPSmith, Lymantria, Duesentrieb: Done as valency (P5526). Thierry Caro (talk) 10:33, 27 July 2018 (UTC)