Wikidata:Property proposal/recording location

recording location[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

Done: recording location (P8546) (Talk and documentation)

Description	location where a media item (sound/video/etc) was recorded
Data type	Item
Domain	Recorded media, in any medium. audiovisual work (Q2431196) most likely. (Though if needed to cover non-audio-visual mediums, domain could be creative work (Q17537576))
Allowed values	inherited from P276
Allowed units	inherited from P276
Example 1	NIPS4B bird challenge audio data (Q77229506) currently has "filming location" of France and Spain - but that's not quite right, as highlighted by the type constraint.
Example 2	The Cicadas of Thailand (audio) (Q80706135) should have a recording location of Thailand entered.
Example 3	BirdVox-full-night (Q78912124) again, "filming location" is slightly the wrong property.
Planned use	The existing subproperties (mentioned above) are specific to movies and to music albums. I plan to use it for zoological recordings made in the wild -- please see Wikidata:WikiProject_Bioacoustics_Datasets.
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
See also	It would be a subproperty of "location" Property:P276 and also a parent proerty of "filming location" Property:P915 and "recorded at studio" Property:P483.

Motivation[edit]

The movie community use "filming location" Property:P915 and the recorded music community use "recorded at studio" Property:P483. These have a lot in common - the location where the media item was captured.

I am working with bioacoustic datasets -- i.e. audio recordings of animals and natural soundscapes. Please see Wikidata:WikiProject_Bioacoustics_Datasets. In zoology we work with audio recordings, photos, video recordings, all taken out in the wild, and would like to indicate where the recordings were made. The movie / music album properties are almost appropriate, but the constraints are too narrow for these different media types.

(Note that "the location where the media item was captured" is NOT the same as "the location where the media item was published". This does not relate to publishing, or to "created at" -- for example, a movie can be filmed in one place, but then the final editing and mastering happen somewhere else, and then publication somewhere else. It is ALSO NOT the same as "depicts" P180 or "main subject" P921: for example, a video of a solar eclipse usually has an earthbound recording location, though it "depicts" something in space.)

Please see original discussion at Property_talk:P915#Rename_to_"shooting_location"? which inspired this proposal.

Mcld (talk) 21:51, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Support; fills the mentioned gap nicely. Quite weird this hasn't existed yet. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 10:59, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I was envisioning a property of the type item rather than coordinates. I was working on a lot of old folk music recordings where only the village is noted, not the actual coordinates. Ainali (talk) 17:27, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ainali: yes, I think "item" will be the one that's most immediately useful. (Ideally it could be either, since not all geolocations merit being an item.) Shall we change it to item? --Mcld (talk) 22:18, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Regarding the solar eclipse, location of the point of view (P7108) would be very good for that. Ainali (talk) 17:30, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support As per discussion on filming location talk page. EDIT: 100% agree with Ainali, should absolutely be item, geo location can be added as qualifier if known. Moebeus (talk) 14:43, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]