Wikidata:Property proposal/designated survivor

designated survivor

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Organization

   Not done

Description	Designated survivor for events such as the State of the Union
Represents	designated survivor (Q596135)
Data type	Item
Domain	item
Allowed values	items that are instance of human (Q5)
Example 1	2019 State of the Union Address (Q60467358) → Rick Perry (Q215057)
Example 2	2018 State of the Union Address (Q47346081) → Sonny Perdue (Q525362)
Example 3	2015 State of the Union Address (Q18740986) → Anthony Foxx (Q4772543)
Example 4	2014 State of the Union Address (Q15894506) → Ernest Moniz (Q5393576)
Planned use	Associate state of the union addresses with their designated survivor
Number of IDs in source	95 (American State of the Union addresses)
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)

Motivation

I was editing 2019 State of the Union Address (Q60467358) and I noticed there was no way to specify the designated survivor (Q596135) which is a prominent detail on the Wikipedia articles. U+1F360 (talk) 03:38, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

I was thinking of using participant (P710), and while the designated survivor (Q596135) is a partipant in the process, they are not a partipant of the event. In fact, they have specifically been singled out to not partipate. So maybe excluding (P1011) could be updated for this purpose? U+1F360 (talk) 04:45, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

•  Support David (talk) 06:41, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
•  Oppose This doesn't seem like something that should need its own property. I'm not sure I agree with the reasoning why participant (P710) isn't suitable: they're not an attendee, but it seems to me they are very explicitly a participant, albeit one who is required to participate from afar. So I think I'd go for something like:

participant (P710)	Rick Perry (Q215057) edit object has role designated survivor (Q596135) 0 references add reference
		add value

I'd be open to a different way of expressing that, though, if there's something else more suitable. --Oravrattas (talk) 08:04, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

• •  Comment. If the property is not created, significant person (P3342) would still be a better choice than participant (P710). Thierry Caro (talk) 17:41, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
    • Oh, yes, significant person (P3342) looks good for this. --Oravrattas (talk) 17:50, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
      • Works for me! U+1F360 (talk) 18:12, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
• @U+1F360, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Oravrattas:  Not done. Use significant person (P3342), which now has a new example. Thierry Caro (talk) 00:10, 11 February 2019 (UTC)