Wikidata:Property proposal/Differential diagnosis

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differential diagnosis[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science

   Not done
DescriptionMISSING
Data typeItem
DomainDiseases and disorders for living organisms
Allowed valuesQ template
Example 1smallpox (Q12214)chickenpox (Q44727), mpox (Q382370), impetigo (Q28971)
Example 2chickenpox (Q44727)smallpox (Q12214), mpox (Q382370), impetigo (Q28971)
Example 3mpox (Q382370)smallpox (Q12214), chickenpox (Q44727), impetigo (Q28971)
Example 4impetigo (Q28971)smallpox (Q12214), chickenpox (Q44727), mpox (Q382370)
Sourceen:Differential diagnosis
Planned useDifferential diagnosis for diseases such as smallbpox

Motivation[edit]

I think that having differential diagnoses for diseases would be useful. (Please excuse any errors in the form of this proposal. This is my first proposal for a Wikidata property.) ↠Pine () 08:16, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Please complete the examples. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 19:05, 9 December 2019 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Pine: Thanks for creating a propoosal; I edited it slightly to better conform to our usual pattern. However as Nomen ad hoc said just above, the examples need to show how you plan to use this property - after the arrow you should provide the value you expect this property to have for each given disease. Also you have specified the type of the property as 'item' - that means the value would also be a Q item. Is that really what you intend? You may need to explain more or at least provide a reference. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:52, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Nomen ad hoc, ArthurPSmith: this property would have the value of other Wikidata items which are differential diagnoses for the diagnosis that is the subject of each Wikidata item. I edited the links to show what I have in mind. ↠Pine () 20:19, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OK, then  Support. Best, Nomen ad hoc (talk) 20:23, 9 December 2019 (UTC).[reply]
  • @TiagoLubiana: the English Wikipedia article at en:Differential diagnosis explains the concept. The different from property's documentation appears to emphasize different entities which have easily confused names. That is different from a differential diagnosis. A differential diagnosis may have a very different name from the original diagnosis, but its symptoms may be similar. If the Wikidata community wants to use the "different from" property to refer to "differential diagnosis" then I think that the examples in the "different from" property should be expanded to include two entities which have similar properties but very different names. Also pinging ArthurPSmith. ↠Pine () 04:18, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Hmm, I was expecting from the label that the values of the property would be in some way the mechanism for differentiating this disease from others, not just a list of other diseases it may be confused with... I think we already have existing properties that would cover that. Perhaps different from (P1889) as suggested above. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:29, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment What would be the reference for a differential diagnosis? I mean, fever can mean pretty much anything, I've seen Dengue mixed up with Malaria in the clinics, for example. Is there a database for these kind of association (as pointed out by Blue Rasberry below)?. In any way, the name should not be "differential diagnosis", as it does not link the two terms of interest. Wikipedia says that it is "distinguishing of a particular disease or condition from others that present similar clinical features". The link between two diseases would then be "similar clinical fatures". We already can cross that info via "Property:P780. Are there standard guidelines that strictly say when two diseases merit diff diagnosis? TiagoLubiana (talk) 20:43, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]