Wikidata:Events/IRC office hour 2021-04-28

PArticipants

1. abizgz
2. Adam
3. Arthur Smith
4. Auregann
5. chicocvenancio
6. Csisc1994
7. Érica Azzellini
8. Jan_ainali
9. lucaswerkmeister
10. mahir256
11. masssly
12. moebeus
13. Nightrose
14. Nikki
15. Paulo_Darwin
16. Sam Alipio
17. Sannita

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2021-04-28T16:02:53 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Okay! Now, let's begin with what happened around the development of Wikidata and Wikibase over the past few months. Over to you Lydia & Sam :)
2021-04-28T16:03:04 <Lydia Pintscher> Hey everyone :)
2021-04-28T16:03:04 <Léa ~ Auregann> \o/
2021-04-28T16:03:12 <Lydia Pintscher> Let's start with what happened on the Wikidata side.
2021-04-28T16:03:55 <Lydia Pintscher> One important development is the query builder. It's now ready in its first version and going through security review. You can try it on the test system in the meantime: https://query-builder-test.toolforge.org/
2021-04-28T16:04:05 <Lydia Pintscher> I hope this will make querying a lot easier for a lot of people.
2021-04-28T16:04:32 <Lydia Pintscher> We also put some work into data quality tools that are hopefully helpful to you.
2021-04-28T16:04:45 <Lydia Pintscher> The first one is the Item Quality Evaluator. https://item-quality-evaluator.toolforge.org/
2021-04-28T16:05:25 <Lydia Pintscher> You give it a list of Items (or a query) and then it returns the average ores quality score for all of them as well as individual scores. That makes it easy to see the lowest quality items in a set.
2021-04-28T16:06:07 <Lydia Pintscher> But since ORES only covers some aspects of data quality we also put together another tool that does something similar for the number of constraints violations on a list of items.
2021-04-28T16:06:31 <Lydia Pintscher> That's a command line script at the moment and we hope to integrate it in the item quality evaluator in the future. You can find it here: https://github.com/wmde/wikidata-constraints-violation-checker
2021-04-28T16:07:31 <Lydia Pintscher> On top of that we've been doing research, planning and interviews for the next larger pieces we'll be working on. That is the REST API, which we'll start coding on very soon as well as lexicographical data improvements and the ability to check wikidata's data against other databases automatically to find mismatches.
2021-04-28T16:07:59 <Lydia Pintscher> Some smaller things we also worked on:
2021-04-28T16:08:36 <Lydia Pintscher> There are now 3 graphs that show you how many editors/active editors/very active editors we have in each of the namespaces on Wikidata: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000162/wikidata-site-stats?orgId=1
2021-04-28T16:09:08 <Lydia Pintscher> We also improved Cognate, the extension that generates language links for Wiktionary. It now deals better with redirect pages.
2021-04-28T16:09:53 <Lydia Pintscher> And last but not least we improved the language selector for monolingual text values. It now shows all languages you can use with monolingual text and no longer hides some of them like it did before.
2021-04-28T16:10:08 <Lydia Pintscher> And with that I hand over to Sam!
2021-04-28T16:10:17 <Lucas Werkmeister> reply to <Lydia Pintscher> "And last but not lea…" \o/
2021-04-28T16:10:30 <Sam Alipio> Hello everyone! Apologies in advance for any typos (I'm not the best on small screens)
2021-04-28T16:10:47 <Sam Alipio> Let's dive in to the exciting happenings in the world of Wikibase
2021-04-28T16:10:57 <Sam Alipio> Since our last office hour, the Wikibase “Release Strategy and Infrastructure” initiative has been continuing at full speed. (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/5063/)
2021-04-28T16:11:20 <Sam Alipio> You might have heard that MediaWiki’s release cycle was significantly delayed due to COVID. As a result, the Wikibase team had to take some creative steps to ensure new Wikibase features developed last year could still be released to you all in a timely manner.
2021-04-28T16:11:37 <Sam Alipio> Rather than waiting for MW 1.36 to be released, we invested time to create a custom Wikibase release based on 1.35
2021-04-28T16:12:05 <Sam Alipio> We will be releasing the new Wikibase tarball and Docker images shortly -- an official announcement will be made in the next few days with all of the important details to help you get prepared. We will aim to release on or before May 15th.
2021-04-28T16:12:21 <Sam Alipio> This new release will be accompanied by updated documentation, with a particular focus on how to migrate from the “old” to the “new” Docker images
2021-04-28T16:12:42 <Sam Alipio> On that note -- as announced earlier this month, the “old” Docker 1.35 images will be sunset in favor of the new official images.
2021-04-28T16:13:08 <Sam Alipio> The new Docker images that we release will still be based on MediaWiki 1.35, but with additional features (including the much-anticipated Federated Properties).
2021-04-28T16:13:24 <Sam Alipio> The Docker images will contain even more of the extensions and components that the community has been wishing for (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T266779)
2021-04-28T16:13:45 <Sam Alipio> One of the exciting new extensions included in the new Docker bundle is the Wikibase Local Media extension developed by Professional.Wiki (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikibase_Local_Media). This extension makes it possible to create statements in a Wikibase that reference local media files rather than images on Wikimedia Commons!
2021-04-28T16:14:07 <Sam Alipio> We’ll also be sending out a survey in the coming weeks to get your feedback on the installation and updating process to establish a baseline that we can continue to improve upon in 2021
2021-04-28T16:14:35 <Sam Alipio> In other news, Wikimedia Germany recently began officially funding the continued operation of the volunteer-run platform WBstack (www.wbstack.com) as part of our exploration and investigation into the topic of “Wikibase as a Service”
2021-04-28T16:14:49 <Sam Alipio> We are excited to move forward with this topic in a way that benefits the Wikibase ecosystem. We will keep the community informed on our progress.
2021-04-28T16:15:21 <Sam Alipio> Finally, the Wikibase team also participated in Wikimedia Germany’s prototyping week in two areas:
2021-04-28T16:15:37 <Sam Alipio> First, we explored what it would take to provide official support for PostgreSQL in Wikibase. This was particularly interesting for one of the national libraries that has been piloting Wikibase.
2021-04-28T16:15:57 <Sam Alipio> If using Wikibase in combination with postgres is important to your project, please contact me via email (samantha.alipio@wikimedia.de) to make your voice heard
2021-04-28T16:16:12 <Sam Alipio> Finally, we spent time during prototyping week to deploy the WikibaseManifest extension and Federated Properties feature to WBstack for early testing and exploration by users. This involved creating a simple user interface for configuring and enabling these features
2021-04-28T16:16:38 <Sam Alipio> Although WBstack is currently “invite only”, new users who wish to experiment with these new features are welcome to contact us for access. Please reach out @Adam for more information.
2021-04-28T16:16:46 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> so many things :)
2021-04-28T16:16:46 <Sam Alipio> And now back to Mohammed
2021-04-28T16:16:57 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Thank you PMs
2021-04-28T16:17:03 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Now, let's have a quick overview of what happened outside of all the development things
2021-04-28T16:17:18 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> In the past quarter we’ve had 2 new admin RfPs, One was successful. Welcome onboard Minorax \o/
2021-04-28T16:17:27 <Luca Martinelli [Sannita]> \o/
2021-04-28T16:17:29 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> This year we started organizing the Wikidata bug triage hour which is a monthly online event where @Nightrose publicly works on triaging development tasks by improving their descriptions on Phabricator.
2021-04-28T16:17:32 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Lexicographical data was the theme for the first 2 sessions and the most recent one in April was about Entity Schemas
2021-04-28T16:17:37 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> We look forward to your feedback regarding the content for future sessions --> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WikidataBugTriageHour
2021-04-28T16:17:47 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Between March and April we organized 30 lexic-o-days
2021-04-28T16:17:52 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> It was a series of gatherings that included exciting presentations and discussions focusing on lexicographical data for an entire month
2021-04-28T16:18:06 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Many thanks to all of you that participated. The notes and recording of the sessions can be found at d:Wikidata:Events/30 lexic-o-days 2021/Outcomes
2021-04-28T16:18:14 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> The upcoming Wikimedia hackathon is on May 22-23
2021-04-28T16:18:21 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> The call for proposals for the program just started --> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2021
2021-04-28T16:18:29 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Wikidata-related projects and sessions are welcome!
2021-04-28T16:18:36 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> As always, new tools were created or improved by the community over the past months. Here are just a few of them:
2021-04-28T16:18:43 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Ranker lets you edit the ranks of several statements at once --> https://ranker.toolforge.org/
2021-04-28T16:18:55 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Wikidata QRank provides a rank for Wikidata entities based on page view statistics from several Wikimedia projects and llows you to download the ranked database in a CSV --> https://qrank.toolforge.org/
2021-04-28T16:19:02 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Sparql_rc is a recent changes feed that only shows you changes in an area of Wikidata you care about. It’s not a new tool but was recently improved to also support Lexemes
2021-04-28T16:19:15 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> The SPARQL endpoint for linguaLibre is now available. You may have heard about LInguaLibre losing its MediaWiki server in the recent OVH datacenter fire
2021-04-28T16:19:21 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Most of their services are back online, thanks to @Nicolas_VIGNERON and colleagues for their hard work \o/
2021-04-28T16:19:29 <Luca Martinelli [Sannita]> hurrah!
2021-04-28T16:19:37 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> @Magnus_Manske made some updates to some of his tools. Notable among them, PetScan can now generate KML map overlay data, and the New catalog import/update function for Mix’n’match catalogs! Many thanks as always \o/
2021-04-28T16:19:43 <Houcemeddine Turki> reply to <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> "Most of their servic…" Well Done
2021-04-28T16:19:48 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> @lucaswerkmeister continues to improve Wikidata Lexeme Forms to support different languages, recently adding Portuguese feminine and masculine nouns.
2021-04-28T16:19:53 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Also, the tool no longer automatically redirects you to login, so you can now use edit mode to view the forms of a lexeme in the “right” order. Here is an example --> https://lexeme-forms.toolforge.org/template/english-noun/edit/L5517
2021-04-28T16:20:13 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Many userscripts were written and the majority of them had to do with enhancing the lexemes UI, like d:User:Nikki/LexemeInterwikiLinks.js -- which is a userscript that adds Wiktionary interwiki links in the sidebar on Lexeme pages
2021-04-28T16:20:19 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Many thanks to @Nikki and So9q who wrote most of them
2021-04-28T16:20:31 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Other very useful tools were written by others. Some of them are
2021-04-28T16:20:45 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> d:User:Lucas Werkmeister/addStatementCountsToCategories.js that shows the number of statements of the linked item for all pages in a category
2021-04-28T16:20:55 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> d:User:Bargioni/UseAsRef, co-written with Epìdosis allows you to add references to statements using one external ID as source
2021-04-28T16:21:04 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> d:User:Lockal/EditSum.js was modified to allow attaching custom summary text to any label/statement/sitelink/etc
2021-04-28T16:21:22 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> We also saw some interesting visualization tools including a new browser for Wikidata called SLING knowledge base browser. According to the developer Mringgaard, “it is lightning fast”. Check it out for yourself --> https://ringgaard.com/kb/Q195
2021-04-28T16:21:34 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> There was also DX Lab Art Index, which is an interactive database of over 18,000 nineteenth century Australian Artworks by over 2000 artists with links to Wikidata & compiled by volunteers over 10 years --> https://dxlab.sl.nsw.gov.au/art-index/
2021-04-28T16:21:42 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> And then https://erinnerungshort.de/kap/ by Raymond and Elya, which is a data and photo research project and map visualization tool with federated license query from Structured Commons
2021-04-28T16:21:43 <Lucas Werkmeister> reply to <wikilinksbot> "[[d:User:Lucas Werkm…" (meta link) [1]
2021-04-28T16:21:55 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> A number of WikiProjects were started over the past months
2021-04-28T16:22:04 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> d:Wikidata:WikiProject_Cyprus, d:Wikidata:WikiProject_Early_Modern_England_and_Wales, d:Wikidata:WikiProject_Templates, & d:Wikidata:WikiProject_Brazilian_Laws
2021-04-28T16:22:18 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> WikiProjects are the place where you can team up with others with a particular focus to improve Wikidata
2021-04-28T16:22:24 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Do check them out and add new ones to the weekly summary!
2021-04-28T16:22:39 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> And finally, here are a few interesting things to watch and read in different languages
2021-04-28T16:22:52 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Working with Zotero on WiKidata (in Italian) --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcopxAMpFlk
2021-04-28T16:22:57 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> SPARQL tutorial (in Portuguese) --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J59HbIYHLkc
2021-04-28T16:23:12 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Wikidata tutorials (in Albanian) --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGz_ac2sjXw
2021-04-28T16:23:23 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Blog: By 62mkv - Importing Estonian Lexemes on Wikidata --> https://62mkv.github.io/wikidata/linguistics/2021/02/01/long-road-to-lexeme.html
2021-04-28T16:23:34 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Blog: Wikidata: data for everyone (in Dutch) --> https://publicspaces.net/2021/01/19/wikidata-data-voor-iedereen/
2021-04-28T16:23:45 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Blog: Using Wikidata for teaching computer programming using real-world cases (in Basque) --> http://wikimedia.eus/2021/01/informatikako-programazio-ariketak-wikidatako-datuekin-jolastoki-berria/
2021-04-28T16:23:56 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Special \o/ to @Jan_ainali for organizing the Wikipedia Weekly Network - LIVE Wikidata editing sessions in Swedish & English, and to @Nicolas_VIGNERON for doing the SPARQL tutorials in French
2021-04-28T16:24:04 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> If you want to know more about the cool things that other community members are doing, or add more to the list: please consider subscribing & contributing to the Wikidata newsletter :) d:Wikidata:Status updates
2021-04-28T16:24:08 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Now, What’s coming next for Wikidata & Wikibase?
2021-04-28T16:24:11 <Darwin> reply to <Jan Ainali> "Is that really the c…" I think the idea is to mask them with kind of a fake, randomly given username (as was usual in the old MUDs and similars, for instance), which is indeed way better in privacy and security terms than the current situation, when in most cases Ip users are everything but anonymous
2021-04-28T16:24:14 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Over to you again Lydia and Sam
2021-04-28T16:24:40 <Jan Ainali> reply to <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> "Special \o/ to @Jan_…" Also credit to my co-host @Abbe98!
2021-04-28T16:24:59 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> reply to <Jan Ainali> "Also credit to my co…" ❤️
2021-04-28T16:25:00 <Lydia Pintscher> Right. So on the Wikidata side we'll be releasing the Query Builder when it made its way through security review.
2021-04-28T16:25:11 <Léa ~ Auregann> Also many thanks to Wiki Movimento Brasil for running the Wikidata Labs sessions, some are in English, check them out!
2021-04-28T16:25:30 <Houcemeddine Turki> reply to <Lucas Werkmeister> "(meta link) [https:/…" I have developed a similar tool: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Structured_Categories
2021-04-28T16:25:59 <Darwin> reply to <Jan Ainali> "And how do you keep …" before the ban, in wiki.pt, we did that by monitoring specific networks which were more prone to vandalism
2021-04-28T16:26:12 <Lydia Pintscher> After that we'll start coding on the 3 big open projects that are coming up next: checking wikidata's data against other databases to find mismatches, the REST API to make building apps with wikidata's data easier and last but not least continue to improve things around lexicographical data.
2021-04-28T16:26:54 <Lydia Pintscher> At the WMF the search platform team is also working hard (with input from us) on making sure the query service keeps running, both short and long-term.
2021-04-28T16:26:55 <Darwin> reply to <Léa ~ Auregann> "Also many thanks to …" really great ☺️😁
2021-04-28T16:27:01 <Érica Azzellini> reply to <Léa ~ Auregann> "Also many thanks to …" Yay! We'll have a Wikidata Lab in English tomorrow 15h UTC with @lucaswerkmeister and @ederporto on metadata applications:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyTYcksPgN4
2021-04-28T16:27:04 <Chico Venancio> reply to <Léa ~ Auregann> "Also many thanks to …" <sticker>
2021-04-28T16:27:11 <Lydia Pintscher> What's up on the Wikibase side, Sam?
2021-04-28T16:27:20 <Sam Alipio> Thanks, Lydia!
2021-04-28T16:27:34 <Sam Alipio> Once we finish with our Release Strategy efforts (culminating in the Spring release), the next initiative will be starting development work to expand upon the functionality of Federated Properties (https://doc.wikimedia.org/Wikibase/master/php/md_docs_components_repo-federated-properties.html)
2021-04-28T16:27:57 <Sam Alipio> This next step forward for Wikibase-Wikidata federation will make it possible to use Wikidata’s properties in combination with your own local data model. This was the main wish that came from pre-release user testing of the more limited Federated Properties feature.
2021-04-28T16:28:11 <Sam Alipio> Federation “version 2” will make it possible to augment your existing local Wikibase properties with Wikidata’s nearly 9000 properties, bringing the Wikibase ecosystem even closer together.
2021-04-28T16:28:35 <Sam Alipio> We will also continue our investigations into “Wikibase as a Service” as a way to make it quicker and easier to create a Wikibase instance and become a part of the ecosystem. I am really excited to share more updates on this topic in our next office hour.
2021-04-28T16:28:50 <Darwin> reply to <Tiago> "I think this could b…" I don't think that is a good idea. Someone can be a writer AND a romancist, for instance. Being a romancist doesn't mean they only write romances, they can write other types of literatures which are not cobvered by "romancist"
2021-04-28T16:28:56 <Sam Alipio> Finally, the Wikibase team will continue contributing to the OPEN!NEXT project (https://opennext.eu/) in the coming months with the development of a “consolidation API” that can handle incoming data from open source hardware resources and turn them into meaningful changes to a Wikibase instance.
2021-04-28T16:29:20 <Sam Alipio> This work is part of the European Union’s Horizon 2020 programme. Our efforts here will help us to provide similar API functionality for other Wikibase projects in the future.
2021-04-28T16:29:42 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Now, do you have any questions for us :D
2021-04-28T16:29:49 <Moebeus> reply to <Sam Alipio> "One of the exciting …" does this mean we can link from WD to images hosted on individual Wikis but not on Commons?
2021-04-28T16:29:56 <Nikki> will the next docker image include the lexeme extension?
2021-04-28T16:30:38 <Sam Alipio> @moebeus the local media datatype that will be includd in the Docker images means you can choose to link either to Commons or locally hosted media
2021-04-28T16:31:06 <Sam Alipio> (from Wikibases, not on Wikidata)
2021-04-28T16:31:47 <Houcemeddine Turki> I have several questions:
1. What does the WMDE Development Team think of the use of the Wikidata statements to analyze Wikimedia Categories (e.g. the work of @lucaswerkmeister and d:Wikidata:Structured Categories.
2021-04-28T16:32:06 <Sam Alipio> Lexemes extension will not be included in the Spring version of the Docker images -- if this is important to you, please add a ticket on Phabricator with the "Wikibase Release Strategy" tag so we can keep it in mind for the fall
2021-04-28T16:32:17 <Nikki> >_<
2021-04-28T16:32:47 <Nikki> where is the right place to get help with installing wikibase?
2021-04-28T16:32:51 <Houcemeddine Turki> 2. Is there any direction to develop Reference Island Project.
2021-04-28T16:33:00 <Lydia Pintscher> reply to <Houcemeddine Turki> "I have several quest…" I've not looked at it in detail so don't have an opinion. Will have a look later.
2021-04-28T16:34:00 <Lydia Pintscher> reply to <Houcemeddine Turki> "2. Is there any dire…" We're looking into using some of the data from it for the project we're doing now with checking Wikidata's data against other databases to find mismatches. Do you have wishes byond that?
2021-04-28T16:34:49 <Houcemeddine Turki> reply to <Lydia Pintscher> "We're looking into u…" I have developed an algorithm to add references from PubMed Central to Wikidata.
2021-04-28T16:34:52 <Houcemeddine Turki> https://misinfocon.com/refb-on-the-quest-of-references-for-collaborative-knowledge-resources-7efad8c88772
2021-04-28T16:35:17 <Lydia Pintscher> reply to <Houcemeddine Turki> "I have developed an …" Thanks. I'll have a look at it then.
2021-04-28T16:35:38 <Houcemeddine Turki> I will be interested in integrating my algorithm to feed Reference Island with references to biomedical statements.
2021-04-28T16:35:39 <Jan Ainali> Q: Is there any nice write up on the upcoming Data about current events?
2021-04-28T16:35:44 <Houcemeddine Turki> reply to <Lydia Pintscher> "Thanks. I'll have a …" Thank you.
2021-04-28T16:36:06 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> reply to <Nikki> "where is the right p…" the telegram group is currently the most active location to ask for help with installation issues, although it may take some time to get responses sometimes
2021-04-28T16:36:30 <Nikki> reply to <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> "the telegram group i…" I thought that, but there doesn't seem to be anyone there with any knowledge about it
2021-04-28T16:36:47 <Lydia Pintscher> reply to <Jan Ainali> "Q: Is there any nice…" Not yet but it's fairly simple. It's a small dashboard that finds Items that are currently edited by several people to identify "hot" items. It's similar to what's on the main page.
2021-04-28T16:37:04 <Lydia Pintscher> reply to <Lydia Pintscher> "Not yet but it's fai…" I hope this will make it easier to keep an eye on vandalism targets.
2021-04-28T16:38:19 <Lucas Werkmeister> reply to <Nikki> "I thought that, but …" I’m in the group, but I don’t have that much experience with installing Wikibase – for the most part I have my local install already and it works :/
2021-04-28T16:38:39 <Lucas Werkmeister> so IIRC I didn’t have anything useful to say on that issue at the time
2021-04-28T16:39:02 <Adam> I'm happy to look too, but seemingly missed this message entirely :)
2021-04-28T16:39:22 <Sam Alipio> reply to <Nikki> "I thought that, but …" I'm not familiar with your specific question in the group, but there is also an FAQ for Wikibase with more resources https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/FAQ
2021-04-28T16:39:46 <Sam Alipio> Keep in mind also that we're going to be enhancing the installation documentation in the next weeks as part of the Spring Release efforts :)
2021-04-28T16:40:03 <Jan Ainali> reply to <Lydia Pintscher> "Not yet but it's fai…" Cool! I already enjoy Wikipedia Live Monitor (but the website seems to be down now, but here are some slides) [2]
2021-04-28T16:40:40 <Lydia Pintscher> I also have one question: Constraints checks are an important quality tool because they make mistakes more visible and hopefully encourage more people to fix them. So far we are not showing constraints violations to non-logged in users. We’ve been thinking about changing that. What are your thoughts on it?
2021-04-28T16:42:04 <Houcemeddine Turki> reply to <Lydia Pintscher> "I also have one ques…" This is excellent to point out.
2021-04-28T16:42:41 <Houcemeddine Turki> Non-registered users have the right to know about the consistency of the Wikidata information.
2021-04-28T16:43:11 <David Abián> We should find out whether this could trigger much or little constraint-driven vandalism
2021-04-28T16:43:13 <Darwin> reply to <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> "[[d:User:Lockal/Edit…" is there something exemplifying how this works?
2021-04-28T16:44:09 <Jan Ainali> Q: Any news at all related to Wikidata Bridge?
2021-04-28T16:44:17 <David Abián> reply to <David Abián> "We should find out w…" I don't know the volume of undetectable vandalism that would be generated versus the mistakes that would be avoided
2021-04-28T16:44:42 <Lucas Werkmeister> reply to <Moebeus> "<photo,caption_entit…" @Paulo_Darwin I think this ^ answers your question?
2021-04-28T16:44:43 <Lydia Pintscher> reply to <Jan Ainali> "Q: Any news at all r…" We're still in discussions with the WMF :(
2021-04-28T16:44:45 <Lucas Werkmeister> (and surrounding conversation)
2021-04-28T16:45:18 <Jan Ainali> reply to <Lydia Pintscher> "We're still in discu…" Is the management gap causing delays or are there technical concerns?
2021-04-28T16:45:22 <David Abián> reply to <David Abián> "I don't know the vol…" … so the best way to know is to try (and measure) 😃
2021-04-28T16:45:32 <Lydia Pintscher> reply to <David Abián> "I don't know the vol…" I am not aware of any technical concerns.
2021-04-28T16:45:46 <Lydia Pintscher> Sorry wrong message to reply to. That was for Jan
2021-04-28T16:46:22 <Lydia Pintscher> reply to <David Abián> "… so the best way to…" Yeah true. Not sure yet how to measure this easily.
2021-04-28T16:46:26 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> reply to <Darwin> "is there something e…" I can't think about one from the top of my head but I'll look
2021-04-28T16:46:34 <Moebeus> reply to <Moebeus> "This looks awesome. …" Q: Any plans to support EDTF properties in WD, or is it a no-go ?
2021-04-28T16:47:25 <Lydia Pintscher> reply to <Moebeus> "Q: Any plans to supp…" I have not looked at what the extension currently supports and how it works. For example things like querying and API access. Without that it's hard to tell atm.
2021-04-28T16:48:53 <David Abián> On https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000162/wikidata-site-stats?orgId=1&viewPanel=19 I see that the numbers decrease over time, what's measured in this case?
2021-04-28T16:49:33 <Lydia Pintscher> reply to <David Abián> "On https://grafana.w…" the number of people who made at least 1 edit in a particular namespace in the last 30 days.
2021-04-28T16:50:00 <Lydia Pintscher> https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000162/wikidata-site-stats?viewPanel=14&orgId=1 is the same for all namespaces combined
2021-04-28T16:50:19 <Lydia Pintscher> https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000162/wikidata-site-stats?viewPanel=14&orgId=1&from=now-5y&to=now the same for the past 5 years
2021-04-28T16:51:06 <David Abián> Okay, thanks for that… and for all the developments 🙌
2021-04-28T16:51:16 <Lydia Pintscher> ❤️
2021-04-28T16:51:16 <Léa ~ Auregann> I have another question for you all :) The next Wikidata bug triage hour will take place on Monday, May 17th, at 16:00 UTC (18:00 in Berlin), and we are still looking for an interesting topic: anything you’d like to highlight? (as a reminder, the first 2 were about Lexicographical Data, and the last one about Schemas)
2021-04-28T16:51:50 <মাহির মোরশেদ> tabular data! (T181319!)
2021-04-28T16:52:08 <Jan Ainali> reply to <Lydia Pintscher> "https://grafana.wiki…" The long trend on this is pretty nice on all levels
2021-04-28T16:52:36 <David Abián> Wikidata's web interface, or UX in general 😃
2021-04-28T16:53:25 <Houcemeddine Turki> reply to <Léa ~ Auregann> "I have another quest…" Tools
2021-04-28T16:53:34 <Darwin> reply to <Lucas Werkmeister> "@Paulo_Darwin I thin…" if I well understood, it's a way to generate an edit summary in those cases were the place to write that don't exist (like adding or removing a property or contrsint of a property - thanks)
2021-04-28T16:53:41 <Houcemeddine Turki> QuickStatements, PetScan...
2021-04-28T16:53:53 <Lucas Werkmeister> reply to <Darwin> "if I well understood…" that’s how I understood it too (I haven’t tried it myself)
2021-04-28T16:54:05 <Moebeus> reply to <মাহির মোরশেদ> "tabular data! (T1813…" +1/me too/ 👍
2021-04-28T16:54:21 <Jan Ainali> reply to <Houcemeddine Turki> "QuickStatements, Pet…" Are there Wikidata bugs affecting them?
2021-04-28T16:54:59 <Léa ~ Auregann> We can talk about those tools but we should keep in mind that they are maintained by community members, not by the Wikidata development team
2021-04-28T16:55:27 <Houcemeddine Turki> reply to <Léa ~ Auregann> "We can talk about th…" That's true. May be a session with @Magnus_Manske
2021-04-28T16:55:33 <Arthur Smith> reply to <Léa ~ Auregann> "I have another quest…" Is there a list of wikidata-related phabricator boards somewhere?
2021-04-28T16:55:38 <Darwin> reply to <Lucas Werkmeister> "(and surrounding con…" really nice, I had missed it
2021-04-28T16:56:04 <Houcemeddine Turki> reply to <Arthur Smith> "Is there a list of w…" There is a board. But, it is inactive although many people notified bugs over there.
2021-04-28T16:57:00 <Léa ~ Auregann> speaking of tools maintained by the community, the Wikimedia hackathon is coming soon :) mw:Wikimedia Hackathon 2021
any of you plan to attend? any specific tools or projects you'd like to work on?
2021-04-28T16:57:48 <Lucas Werkmeister> reply to <Léa ~ Auregann> "speaking of tools ma…" yes, and I don’t know yet 😅
2021-04-28T16:57:59 <Lucas Werkmeister> but I’m sure I’ll find something to do ^^
2021-04-28T16:58:19 <Lydia Pintscher> reply to <Arthur Smith> "Is there a list of w…" There is a growing list here: https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Phabricator-maintenance-bot/blob/16e1af501b55a8f409c51273fc3283ba61a29462/project_grouper.py#L129
2021-04-28T16:58:33 <Lucas Werkmeister> /delete@wikilinksbot
2021-04-28T16:58:39 <Lydia Pintscher> reply to <Lydia Pintscher> "There is a growing l…" But they should all be automatically added to the Wikidata board as well
2021-04-28T16:58:49 <Darwin> reply to <Jan Ainali> "Are there Wikidata b…" there seems to be a bug in constraints related to checking subclasses and instances, firing them even when the required instance or subclass is there. Sorry for randomly answering your comment, but I'm not sure where it belongs (or even if it is of interest for that)
2021-04-28T16:59:20 <Houcemeddine Turki> reply to <Léa ~ Auregann> "speaking of tools ma…" I am willing to attend the Wikimedia Hackathon 2021.
2021-04-28T16:59:34 <Lydia Pintscher> reply to <Darwin> "there seems to be a …" I can find the ticket for you. One sec.
2021-04-28T16:59:56 <Houcemeddine Turki> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281360
2021-04-28T16:59:58 <Darwin> reply to <Lydia Pintscher> "I can find the ticke…" ahh it has been reported already. great
2021-04-28T17:00:17 <Lydia Pintscher> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173596
2021-04-28T17:00:29 <মাহির মোরশেদ> in addition to the tfsl tool for manipulating lexemes (and later items), there is something else I'm trying to build which uses it that I'd like to debut at the hackathon if it gets to a good-enough state
2021-04-28T17:00:58 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> We're approaching the end of the office hour but I have one final question for you :) Do you have any cool Wikidata tips and tricks that you use? If you’re on Twitter then please share them with the community under the hashtag #WikidataTips --> https://twitter.com/hashtag/WikidataTips?src=hashtag_click&f=live
2021-04-28T17:01:31 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> if no-one has any easy or hard questions for us I think we can wrap up :D
2021-04-28T17:01:35 <Darwin> reply to <Lydia Pintscher> "https://phabricator.…" thanks!
2021-04-28T17:01:36 <Houcemeddine Turki> reply to <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> "We're approaching th…" This will be excellent.
2021-04-28T17:01:38 <Arthur Smith> Are there really 2255 "incoming" requests on the Wikidata workboard?!!
2021-04-28T17:01:41 <Houcemeddine Turki> Thank you.
2021-04-28T17:01:44 <Arthur Smith> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/71/query/open/
2021-04-28T17:01:50 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> Thanks so much everyone for attending and asking questions
2021-04-28T17:01:51 <Lydia Pintscher> reply to <Arthur Smith> "Are there really 225…" Yeah :/
2021-04-28T17:01:52 <Léa ~ Auregann> Thanks all for participating!
2021-04-28T17:02:13 <Mohammed Sadat Abdulai> see you around :)
2021-04-28T17:02:21 <Lydia Pintscher> Thanks everyone! ❤️
2021-04-28T17:02:32 <Lucas Werkmeister> see you! *stays in the channel*