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title page number
qualifier to indicate the number of the page of a document in which the title page is located. Don't use for the actual cover page.

Represents	title page (Q1339862)
Data type	Quantity
Template parameter	"Cover image", in Wikisource indexes
Domain	Commons documents (pdf, djvu etc), URLs to pdfs/djvu (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed values	1 ≤ 𝓧 ≤ 50
Allowed units	not applicable
Example	According to this template: Decameron di Giovanni Boccaccio corretto ed illustrato con note (Q43437721) document file on Wikimedia Commons (P996) c:File:Boccaccio - Decameron di Giovanni Boccaccio corretto ed illustrato con note, 1827.djvu → 9 Correct: page 9 is displayed. The above should display that way. Incorrect: first page is displayed Il Decameron (Q43431543) document file on Wikimedia Commons (P996) c:File:Boccaccio_-_Il_Decameron_I,_1877.djvu → 9 Correct: page 9 is displayed. The above should display that way. Incorrect: first page is displayed According to statements in the property: not applicable When possible, data should only be stored as statements
See also	file page (P7668), document file on Wikimedia Commons (P996)
Lists	Sample use: Wikidata:Lists/Decameron editions and translations (last column) Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Minimum and maximum Items with highest numeric value Items with lowest numeric value Database reports/Constraint violations/P4714
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 3,534 Main statement 18 0.5% of uses Qualifier 3,512 99.4% of uses Reference 4 0.1% of uses

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Scope is as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4714#Scope, SPARQL

Units: “novalue”: value unit must be one of listed. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4714#Units

Range from “1” to “50”: values should be in the range from “1” to “50”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4714#Range

Integer: values should be integers (ie. they shouldn't have a fractional part) (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4714#integer, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200), Wikibase MediaInfo (Q59712033): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4714#Entity types

This property is being used by: s:uk:Шаблон:Заголовок Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

"Title page" or "Cover page"... ?

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is it "Title page" or "Cover page"... ? - the label/description is ambiguous, and for a librarian, it is not at all the same...

ex. : on commons:File:Ker_-_Cyril_aux_doigts-rouges_ou_le_Prince_Russe_et_l'Enfant_Tartare,_1917.djvu?uselang=fr, Cover page is page 1 of djvu, while Title page is page 4...

if it is for illustration purpose, cover page is better (it can be illustrated) ; if for referencing, "title" page is better, since cataloguing norms say that you must use the title page to fix the "title", while the title on the "cover" can be abbreviated, or sometimes totally different...

So, which one ? --Hsarrazin (talk) 13:29, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

• Which part is ambiguous? Is I understood the lengthy discussion, it start out with "cover page", but meaning the title page and that's what user seem to be looking for. "cover page" is sometimes used for title pages, so it could be an alias.
  --- Jura 13:45, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Display thumbnail based on file page (P7668) or title page number (P4714)

Please see Wikidata:Contact the development team/Archive/2019/12#Page for thumbnail.

Eventually a new request should be made as suggested there by Lea. --- Jura 13:51, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T288734

•  Done at phab:T288734 --- Jura 13:05, 12 August 2021 (UTC)