Wikidata talk:WikiCite/Researchers in Switzerland

Queries to be emptied

#title:List of researchers with affiliation to institutions in Switzerland or Liechtenstein without gender
SELECT DISTINCT ?person ?personLabel
WHERE {
  ?person wdt:P108 [ wdt:P17 ?country ] .
  VALUES ?country { wd:Q39 wd:Q347 } .
  MINUS { ?person wdt:P21 [] . }
  SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
}

List of researchers with affiliation to institutions in Switzerland or Liechtenstein without gender

Side project WMCH

Interesting that one could get paid to upload them. Are you still looking for people? --- Jura 12:53, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

User:Jura1 I am not aware of the details of the strategy of WMCH, I missed their strategic meeting because it was COVID season but I wanted to go. You can be paid in general to create content if an affiliate or WMF thinks it's worth it. For example if it fills a structural gap that it might take too much time to be completed but it could be very useful for their activities in the near future. For example, in this area I do the same things in Italy and nobody pays me there and probably never will (so I take it more slowly, probably), but they though it was fair to pay me in Switzerland.

This project here is mostly at the moment a side-project of Wiki Science Competition 2021. I had to organize it at the national level and since I scrolled many page to send mails to Swiss researchers, I planned to create all of their profiles, it was not started as a Wikidata-centric project per se, but this part came out organically. I sent some proposals for other Wikidata-related project, I can contact you in the future if they give me a lot of funding (but I am no manager). I know this scenario could happen because it already happened for other activities, when I asked other users to join. However, those additional proposals were very specific and limited in budget. You should contact WMCH directly IMHO. Show them if you have some specific ideas, and you can be integrated over the next years. Happy to see you around, honestly I am kinda surprised you did not ask before, I though you were not interested at all.--Alessandro Marchetti (WMCH) (talk) 14:28, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

@Alessandro Marchetti: Thanks for your feedback, most interesting. I had looked into the resource you are currently working on and had thought it would be a good addition too and a worthwhile task. For its administrators, it can be hugely beneficial to integrate it as well. You probably also looked into Swisscovery and noticed that it would benefit as well. As it can be tricky to work on these resources without the support of its staff and as they all have paid staff to do so, I tend to focus on other, generally historic, resources. These are sometimes more complex to work with, sometimes not. --- Jura 10:14, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

I noticed a few days ago the Mix-n-Match catalogs for the FNS and UNIGE Open archive and went on to add them on a few items, even creating some, and I didn't realise there was a whole project for researchers in Switzerland! Happy to help for humanities fields if needed, though I missing a bit of what properties should be added: from examples I suppose employer (P108) and affiliation (P1416)? Shall I be specific or can I stay at the university level ? --Jahl de Vautban (talk) 09:25, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Jahl de Vautban the catalog of FNS and UNIGE are not strictly part of this project, but I suggested (or proposed directly) FNS ID in view of this development and now I have also proposed UNIGE ID. My plan with this account is not to put them at the center of this project, but I will dig into them as much as possible. The project's target are massive import from xls files that I am refining right now. I took all the mail "name surname" that I gathered during WSC for my mail campaign and I am creating stub items from those database, than I'll refine them. So, if I have time, I will add i those new items whatever I can spot during their revision.

If you do something before me, I'll focus on something else. Imagine me investing 1-5 minutes opening them once by once once created... So have fun with me, before me or after me... yes, employer (P108) and affiliation (P1416) are a key goal, although for some productive PhD students those are not "employers". I use both or at least one of them depending on the archive I am scrolling. Sometimes I can be 100% sure of the affiliation but in medicine or other fields multiple affiliations are common, and only one is an effective employer. Also, gender is very critical, we are going in fact to slightly improve the gender gap situation so, this statement is usually inserted.--Alessandro Marchetti (WMCH) (talk) 20:50, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

@Alessandro Marchetti (WMCH): thanks for answering. I'm not planning any mass edits, it will only be small manual contributions. For now I am limiting myself to researchers I know first hand (from the the Arts faculty (Faculté des Lettres) of University of Geneva (Q503473)) or researchers actives in fields related to history/Antiquity. From what I gather from the project description, that shouldn't interfere too much with your contributions. --Jahl de Vautban (talk) 09:27, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Jahl de Vautban you can't interfere because this project is aimed only at people holding scientific and technical positions... maybe in the future a more structured attempt to cover all of reserachers and professors will be done, but this is currently a filler, a stopgap. It was never intended to be complete. It might evolve along some wmch strategy into a more complete project (I hope so!).--Alessandro Marchetti (WMCH) (talk) 11:22, 16 January 2022 (UTC)