Wikidata:WikiProject LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group/Affinity Group Calls/Meeting Notes/2020-05-05

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Call Details[edit]

  • Date: 2020-05-05
  • Topic: Wikidata and Wikipedia Infoboxes
  • Presenter: Alex Jung

Presentation Materials[edit]

Notes:[edit]

  • Slides
  • Wikipedia
    • Hindrance to development--language dependence
  • Wikidata--multilingual
  • Infoboxes
    • Usually on the right side of Wikipedia article
    • Summarize content of the article
  • Questions about Wikipedia, Wikidata, Infoboxes
    • Debate about Wikipedia infoboxes being populated by Wikidata--how to explain how Wikidata and Wikipedia are related and the background
    • Infoboxes and trying to create structured data doesn’t always align with ways humans interact with world--how to describe cultural heritage organizations--city, county, state--Wikidata wants you to include most local, but some cities exist in multiple counties and don’t perfectly line up--stalemate in conversation
      • Consensus so far has been make it opt in to Wikidata
    • Convincing some Wikipedians of usefulness of Wikidata-aware infoboxes / reliability of automatically synced data is a major battle
    • Are the main infoboxes now visible in mobile and is there an easy way to tell which ones are?
    • Who initiates conversation between Wikidata and Wikipedia?
      • Wikidata has been more a central push from Wikimedia Deutschland--have initiated rollout on various language Wikipedias
      • Requests for comment--Village pump section of Wikipedia
      • A lot of yielding to local consensus--less far-reaching decisions
        • Wikidata opt-in---don’t want to overwrite local decisions
    • Language interdependence
      • Manually encoding language links in the past
      • Wikidata helps solve that problem
    • If you are on an article, just click Tools section to navigate to Wikidata item
    • Approximately what proportion of entities in Wikipedia also have Wikidata item
      • Usually all Wikipedia articles have a Wikidata item-- created semi-automatically by bot
      • May be a lag time between creation of WP article and WD item
      • Wikipedia has 6,071,868 articles and Wikidata has 84,836,377 items
  • By the time Wikidata came along English Wikipedia had already 4 million articles
    • Smaller language Wikipedias had fewer articles, so more readily adopted Wikidata
    • Catalan Wikipedia has Wikidata infobox usage rate of 70%
  • Categories
    • Take articles and group them under Categories
  • Sidebars
    • Group together different Wikipedia articles in similar subject areas
  • External links--Wikidata powered
  • Authority control--Wikidata powered using templates
  • Templates
    • How Wikipedia pulls information
    • Called Transclusion
    • Call a template: {{Infobox A|...}}
      • Usually visible by clicking Edit Source
      • Pipes (|) lay out the parameters that are being pulled in
    • Lua modules used to help perform more complex editing in templates
      • Powerful engine for helping to handle Wikidata
      • Template calls up the module to invoke the Wikidata
    • Template:Authority control used on 3% of pages
      • Has template protection--can tell from padlock icon in top right corner
      • Editors steward and maintain heavily used templates
    • Can request changes for protected templates on the talk page and can also find out more about how it works
  • Wikidata rollout
    • Phases for interlanguage links, lists, infoboxes
    • Challenges
      • Technical
        • Decentralised, volunteer powered platform
        • Built out a specific module for infoboxes
      • Consensus procedure
        • Requests for comment
          • Wikidata acceptable if Wikipedians can be assured data is accurate and meets Wikipedia’s rules of reliability
          • No other clear consensus for other issues raised
    • Take-aways
      • En-WP prioritises own reliability standards
      • En-WP no broad WD rollout, yields to local consensus
      • Wikidata powers important parts of Wikipedia
        • Interlanguage links and Authority control
  • The gap
    • Patchy infrastructure
      • Unevenly supported Lua modules that differ across Wikipedias
    • Community silos
      • Easier to contribute just to WP or WD
  • Questions
  • Infoboxes: “Archives at” (P485)
    • Catalan Wikipedia has structure in infobox laying out where archives are
      • Can see item number and where it’s stored
    • Blocked on English Wikipedia because editors don’t consider archival information part of someone’s biography
    • Workaround: Template:Archival records
      • Pulls location data from Wikidata
  • Infoboxes: Try it!
  • Sandbox
    • Scratchpad where you can try things out
  • Batch process that generates wikidata entries from Wikipedia articles also include step to insert WD-powered infobox into Wikipedia article?
  • Archives at workaround
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