Wikidata:WP EMEW/Items

Places[edit]

Already in EMEW, or planned (prong 1)[edit]

See https://viaeregiae.org/wiki/Datasets

Monasteries. @DrJACameron list: [1]. Current data: https://w.wiki/zcm

We may have most of these; we ought to have all of them.

Unclear whether spreadsheet is available. No item-level accessible website, so a property not appropriate. But catalog code (P528) + catalog (P972) would be reasonable, or fall back to described by source (P1343).

A few (17 + 3 not found by query) have UK National Archives ID (P3029) links - should be more? Also, most should have National Heritage List for England number (P1216) -- hunt down the missing ID, and merge reported ID dupes that appear.

Wikidata:WP EMEW/Monasteries

Bridges. (pre-1200 / tudor / pre-1900)

Here are bridges that that have listed building links: https://w.wiki/yzz , and we may well have more. But most are much, much later than the target period. Dataset could be significantly enhanced by drilling more data of of the listing info -- eg inception (P571), made from material (P186) ... other properties for bridges?

Markets and Fairs -- recurrent events, that happen to have locations.

Current data for market (Q132510) : https://w.wiki/zdS and fair (Q288514) https://w.wiki/zdT -- mostly modern; not always well distinguished from places where they occur

Historic market data for England and Wales available from the Gazetteer of Markets and Fair in England and Wales to 1516, however this appears to be text rather than a dataset which could be easily imported to Wikidata

Forests and Chases
Churches
Church schools

Potential as additions to EMEW & the VR map[edit]

Manors TNA list: [2] Current data: https://w.wiki/zce CONTACT: Jo Pugh tweet

May be more lurking in en:Category:Former_manors_in_Somerset & up the tree -- investigate with PetScan -> tag as manors -> but then create separate items, if the item is also a settlement, or a building?

ISSUE: Appropriate relationship with settlement? And with the actual building (often later). Probably just create new items for almost all of them, use location (P276) to link to settlements, headquarters location (P159) (?) to link to manor building?

Example: Kittisford (Q21061464), Manor of Kittisford (Q21061823), Kittisford Barton (Q17555635)

Wikidata:WP EMEW/Manors

... ?

Maps, texts, sources[edit]

See Sources subproject for more information

Maps and texts[edit]

AIM: What different editions and resources are there for the key maps and texts being worked on by VR? Useful to flesh out with as complete items as possible.

-- In particular what digital editions? Are there IIIF versions? For maps: can we translate our annotations between different digital base versions? What data is needed to enable this?

See Specific items for resources identified so far.

(can be useful to look at in Reasonator, as most many->one relationships are only on the many, not the one (eg: exemplar of (P1574), edition or translation of (P629)).

STRETCH GOAL: Also useful to track secondary literature: bibliography of books, articles, etc about the creators and the works. Look for such items where we have them, and make sure they have main subject (P921) set, so we can easily find them.

(QUERY: For texts, what is useful for Wikisource? eg how to give WS cleaned-up OCR, how to include annotations in mark-up (or strip?) )

Specialist gazetteers and thesauruses[edit]

Data-sources being used by VR (eg specialist gazetteers, thesauruses) should all have items in Wikidata. See working list at Specific items

Referenced documents[edit]

Wikidata pages for archival documents that are being mined for information, eg

Inquisitions post-mortem

inquisition post mortem (Q6036904) is a completely blank item at the moment

We should probably create items for each individual Inq p.m. & try to relate them to individuals and manors

Quarter sessions

Quarter Sessions (Q7269253). It looks like some county-level items exist for Wales, see per Reasonator [3] "from related items".

Also Middlesex Quarter Sessions (Q16997751), England, Kent, Quarter Sessions and Court Files - FamilySearch Historical Records (Q94425097), Great Britain. Court of Quarter Sessions of the Peace (Glamorgan) Papers relating to, NLW MS 5203E (Q56177665) exist, with v limited information

We should probably have an item for every court VR cites (and ideally every court that existed, with bibliographic data). archives at (P485) important.

Unclear if finer-level items would have value

Probate records

At the very least, Wikidata should have information about the different probate registries. UNCLEAR whether there should be items on WD at the level of individual probate records -- possibly not

Agree it is not appropriate for probate records to have WD but a property to link the people to the appropriate probate registry might be desirable (or an identifier if PIDs exist) DrThneed (talk) 04:34, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

... others : see VR wiki: Sources

Allied items[edit]

Allied groups of items, relevant to many items with EMEW ids, that may need work[edit]

Counties

The class historic county of the United Kingdom (Q67376938) and property historic county (P7959) (proposal discussion) were recently created. Needs attention to make sure part of (P361) and located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) are consistently present.

QUERY: Relation with "ordinary" items for counties is not clear to me.

-- if Essex (Q23240) is the item for "Essex" from the earliest times to the present day (and also has all the sitelinks) (? = the Bonnie-AND-Clyde item), then what is Essex (Q67442940) (? 'Clyde' -- but in what sense?) and how should it be relate to the first?

Wikidata:WP EMEW/Counties

Historical sub-divisions of counties

Hundreds, wapentakes, rapes, etc. Need some love. (see note on EPNS-DEEP dataset above). Also other traditional areas defined within counties.

Also commote (Q2094158) in Wales.

Thesaurus contents[edit]

If VR is using any standard external controlled-vocabulary or thesaurus (eg for the type of the geo-spatial feature), we should make sure that we can identify the corresponding wikidata items, and vice-versa.

tbc