Wikidata:Property proposal/MC server IP

Minecraft server

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Computing

   Withdrawn

Description	MISSING
Represents	Minecraft server (Q85851440)
Data type	String
Domain	item, Minecraft server (Q85851440)
Allowed values	(\S+\.)+\S+(/\S*)?| (Syntax clarification: A valid domain name with or without a port number.)
Example 1	Hypixel (Q60034344)Minecraft server IPhypixel.net
Example 2	Mineplex (Q65084530)Minecraft server IPmineplex.com
Example 3	The Uncensored Library (Q88222549)Minecraft server IPuncensoredlibrary.com
Example 4	Autcraft (Q104854263)Minecraft server IPmc.autcraft.com
Example 5	Wynncraft (Q105706369)Minecraft server IPplay.wynncraft.com
Example 6	Mineplex (Q65084530)Minecraft server IPeu.minexplex.com with qualifiers intended public (P2360)Q458{{{3}}} and end time (P582)26 August 2019{{{3}}}}}
Source	Various Minecraft server lists
Planned use	Tying together Minecraft server IPs with their Wikidata items
Number of IDs in source	Potentially infinite; I cannot find a number, but most servers are on port 25565 if that helps someone that knows how to obtain this number.
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that does not imply notability (Q62589320)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Minecraft (Q117072215)

Motivation

This will help us to tie together server IPs with their Wikidata items. —Tomodachi94 (talk) 21:42, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

In some cases, the IP address is separate from the official website (P856) value (examples 4, 5, 6) or there are different server IPs per region (example 6; I am aware of a few other servers that have this that don't have Wikidata items yet); this property would be especially useful for those cases. —Tomodachi94 (talk) 21:42, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

• Tomodachi94 (talk) -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 02:01, 12 March 2023 (UTC) SWinxy (talk) 17:28, 19 April 2023 (UTC) BEANS X2 (talk) Serilly (talk) Keplersj (talk) Lewis Hulbert (talk) MarkusRost (talk)
  Notified participants of WikiProject Minecraft. —Tomodachi94 (talk) 21:42, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
•  Comment I'm unable to move this proposal to its proper place at Wikidata:Property proposal/Minecraft server IP; please keep this in mind when creating. If someone can fix this for me, please do so! —Tomodachi94 (talk)
•  Comment I would much rather prefer a property that can be used for other video game servers as well. Not sure what it would be called. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 02:46, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
•  Comment What does "IP" mean? The first value "hypixel.net" looks like a domain name. The item currently has official website = https://hypixel.net/ . Why string, if it is a domain it could be URL? GeoGQL (talk) 20:57, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

  'IP' is short for IP address. The server field in the game is named 'IP', even though it supports domains as well as IP addresses. —Tomodachi94 (talk) 21:21, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

•  Oppose since I'm not sure that the semantics behind this property make sense: this isn't really a concept specific to Minecraft, despite the MC community having a ~unique term for it. A more generic property such as "(official) instance/server (address)" could be the way forward, e.g. Libera.Chat (Q106908381)serverirc.libera.chatprotocol (P2700)Internet Relay Chat (Q73) (IRC specified as the protocol using a qualifier) or Hypixel (Q60034344)serverhypixel.netprotocol (P2700)Minecraft server protocol (we don't have an item for the MC server protocol yet). In essence, it would be an equivalent of official website (P856) for non-HTTP protocols. BEANS X2 (talk) 11:54, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

  Alternatively, we could have a property for each protocol, including something similar to this proposal for Minecraft servers and another property e.g. for IRC servers. They should probably be named like "Minecraft server"/"Internet Relay Chat server" or similar for clarity and consistency. BEANS X2 (talk) 11:54, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

•  Withdrawn in favor of API endpoint URL (P6269) with qualifier protocol (P2700). —Tomodachi94 (talk) 20:18, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

  @Tomodachi94 Unfortunately, I don't think API endpoint URL (P6269) quite fits. It seems to be specifically for the web API (Q557770) of an app/service, using the HTTP protocol or an abstraction on top of HTTP. In addition, URLs aren't used to refer to MC server endpoints: it's just the IP address (or domain) with a port number. I'd be happy to write a proposal for a "server" or "server address" property to properly document MC server IPs (and things like IRC servers). What do you think? BEANS X2 (talk) 15:32, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

  I agree with a "server address" property. API endpoint URL (P6269) needs to start with http(s), which Minecraft IPs do not, because they aren't URLs. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 15:57, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

  I would  Support such a property proposal. —Tomodachi94 (talk) 17:53, 26 April 2023 (UTC)