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Please, restore "shadowhunter"

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Chilocharlie (talkcontribs)

I believe that you deleted the "shadowhunter" entity and definition that I created (Q115103335) by mistake, apparently because it is not "notable" enough. This is inconsistent with several Wikidata entries for the films. The films are notable, the noun is notable, and it belongs in Wikidata. Please, restore "shadowhunter".

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

This item needs external sources in order to have a clear definition. Can you provide such a source?

Chilocharlie (talkcontribs)

Sure. Sources are all the automatic options for "shadowhunter" that will autocomplete while typing. The definition itself was redacted by me, based on one of the official trailers. See "THE MORTAL INSTRUMENTS: CITY OF BONES - Official Trailer" by Sony Pictures Entertainment in Youtube. I cannot post the link because of an automatic spam filter.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

This needs some sort of an external source. It is not obvious to others what this is about.

Technically, the item needs to comply with the notability policy at Wikidata:Notability.

Chilocharlie (talkcontribs)

This statement is incorrect: "This needs some sort of an external source." Only two of the three criteria in the notability policy need to be fulfilled. An entity can be added even if it has no external sources. Still, this one has external sources, like the trailer for example, which could be better referred if the link wasn't automatically blocked. A Google search for "shadowhunter" and the definition would have also provided relevant results. And Wikidata is meant to be co-curated. No one person needs to add everything. If someone adds a term, that is already a win, a term and a definition is a double win. Instead of deleting, better to leave the wiki spirit of co-curation and co-contribution to follow its course and others to add more data and links.

The term itself *is notable* as I explained above. It will definitely enhance the knowledge base, it refers to a clearly identifiable entity with plenty of public references, and will make statements in other items more useful. For example:

"Katherine McNamara as Clary Fairchild, a *shadowhunter* raised among mundanes (humans) who finds out her true heritage on her 18th birthday." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowhunters#Main

I hope that now it is clear that the term was correctly added and incorrectly deleted. I do not understand why the item was deleted before checking these things within Wikipedia first and why all the documentation burden to restore an item that was correctly added in the first place should fall upon me. If correctly adding just one term will take so much struggle, then I better give up.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

I'm still not convinced, but at this point I think it would be the best to just give it a try.

Re. "And Wikidata is meant to be co-curated.": sure, but this is also a fallacy. Particularly content with notability issues and a lack of external resources are usually not being edited by anyone else. In the current condition, you are the only one to improve the item.

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