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For some reason all games with the word 'Backroom' in their title lists the KEX Engine even though it's listed as unknown on Wikidata. Also none of the games mentions developer/publisher

The Kex Engine is definitely real: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Engine:Kex_Engine

Although you're correct that something weird happened with these games, they don't have any fishy edits that I can see, so it must be something wrong with the data either in wikidata or in one of my scripts' interpretation of that data.

Thanks for pointing this out, I'll fix it and try to figure out what's wrong here.

It's possible this may have something to do with engine having a value set to "unknown value" (e.g. Q114833428 was set to "unknown value" when the import occurred on 10/28), and for some reason it defaults to KEX Engine? Not sure...

It may interpret "unknown value" as NULL, and then look for the latest engine value with a NULL wikidata_id (which happens to be KEX Engine). It also appears that there are 465 engines in the DB and KEX Engine has the ID of 465 (though it's not _the last_ engine in the table, there are some IDs that were skipped/deleted). I'm pretty sure that's a coincidence, though.

Any idea why the publisher/developer of the Backroom games are not listed?https://vglist.co/games/49211

I probably need to do an import of new game devs/publishers, I haven't done one in quite a while.

Just a suggestion but you might wanna consider removing and skipping games whose publication date value is set to "unknown value"

As games with this value have yet to be released it doesnt make sense to list them on vglist

@Trade I've considered it, but it can be useful to have games that haven't released yet on the platform. Plus, it'd lead to a lot of inconsistency since most of the time games don't get set to unknown value at all. So some games will end up slipping through even if people mark them as "unknown value" afterward.

I dont think r/place belongs on vglist

Good find! I've added it to the blocklist and deleted the game.

Are you planning to allow video game demos to be added to vglist?

I don't think so, but I hadn't given it much thought before now. It seems like it's not super likely that people would necessarily want to log demos they've played 🤔

Would you support a property that links video game items to their demos? The opposite of my current property proposal basically

Would there be a reason to have that, given that it's already implied by the existing property that was proposed? Almost all games only have one demo.

Just to make it easier for inexperienced users to find the demo item. 99% of Wikidata visitors are not going to have Jean-Frederic's script installed

Ooh, I see. I suppose that makes sense to me.

Do you think homebrew video games should be added to vglist?

Probably not, although I could see arguments for some.

Which ones?

Particularly notable ones like Project M come to mind. Although I suppose that's a rather arbitrary distinction.

Honestly, just make homebrew a seperate section of the site. It's more work but it also avoids the headache of trying to decide which homebrew is allowed or not

There isn't really a predicent to rely on since video game databases rarely include homebrew