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In WordData the basic unit is sense and there are no entries for lexemes. e.g. this refers to three Wikidata lexemes and 9 senses. See as an example here: if you query for synonyms of "group" it will first query all senses (verb and noun) of "group" and find synonyms of each senses. See Wikidata:Property proposal/Wolfram language WordData sense.

• WordData["group", "Synonyms"] works like {x:[i.lemma for i in synonyms(x)] for x in senses("group")}
• WordData["group", "Synonyms", "List"] works like sum([[i.lemma for i in synonyms(x)] for x in senses("group")],[])
• WordData["group", "Synonyms", "Rules"] works like {x:[i for i in synonyms(x)] for x in senses("group")]

Thanks for creating a property proposal! Did you see the URL formatter I posted here: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q105045991&type=revision&diff=1347396393&oldid=1347299801 cant that be used on a proposal? Say a proposal for "Wolfram language WordData word"? That what was I had in mind. Would you mind proposing that also? (I see you have more experience with Wolfram stuff, it's pretty new to me.)

Wolfram Alpha may access some general information a word, but not a specific sense. you need to install Wolfram Mathemativa or Wplfram Engine, or use Wolfram Cloud to access data acout specific sense.

It seems we are miscommunicating here. I'm not interested in the senses if they cannot be accessed with a public URL.

I have added search formatter URL (P4354) on Q105045991.

I started a discussion here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Lexicographical_data#Wolfram_WordData_properties_and_statements_on_lexemes I suggest we continue discussing there.

Do you noticed the discussion in the Telegram groups?

Did you mean to ask if I participated in the chat in the telegram groups? Yes, I participate more or less every day atm. You are very welcome to join. :)

I did not use the correct grammar in the previous comment. I mean you should notify Telegram group about the discussion about WordData you started.

Yes I posted it in the lexical group.

Most of words comes from WordNet (http://wordnet-rdf.princeton.edu/lemma/word) but it doesn't seem a reliable source either.

can you give an example URL? Do we have a external ID property for that?

You may replace the "word" in above URL to arbitrary word. See also WordNet 3.1 Synset ID (P8814) - you may find Synset ID via OPTIONS (top-right) => Show Synset Identifier - which is only used three times. WordNet does not provide ID for lexemes nor (lexeme-dependant) senses of lexemes.

I looked at the json and there is a "sense_key", id and ili which looks like a lemma id. See http://wordnet-rdf.princeton.edu/json/lemma/pizza could you contact wordnet and ask if they are uniqque, stable and persistent?

wordnet seems like a goldmine to link to, could you also ask if they can make an URL endpoint that accept sense_key or id possible?