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I don't think it's a good idea to use saint (Q43115) for position held (P39). Normally you are declared saint when you are dead and cannot be occupied with anything. We have special property canonization status (P411)

@Ghuron: Ah thank you for pointing me to canonization status (P411)! I will be more careful in regards to position held (P39) (and occupation (P106)) in the future.

I was looking for such a property under saint (Q43115) but apparently was not using the correct alias. Since it is a subclass of title (Q216353) I considered award received (P166) but that made even less sense to me. I've since added a see also (P1659) to saint (Q43115) to point others to the correct property.

Dear colleague, I'm spending more and more time reverting my edits, causes by your modifications of P4224 statements (recent one was in Category:American Christian Scientists (Q8243103)). It looks like we have completely different views on that property. Can we possibly have discussion before further changes occurs?

Hi @Ghuron:,

Friendly ping. Just wanted to see if you had a chance to review Category:American Christian Scientists (Q8243103).

Cheers, ElanHR (talk) 22:45, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Ghuron:,

I definitely agree this category has a semantically ambiguous title - the main topic for this category wikipedia:en:Christian Science specifically makes a note that it is different than wikipedia:en:List of Christian thinkers in science. The en category (as well as ar using translation) implies religion (P140) Christian Science (Q624477) based on the main topic article and membership. These child articles are prominent members of the religion - primarily founders and celebrities who are not scientist (Q901) in the traditional sense - e.g. Georgia Hale (Q273402), Mary Baker Eddy (Q235069), John H. Cade, Jr. (Q6236734), and Doris Day (Q104372).

To avoid further confusion I think it may make sense to add a disambiguating phrase to the category title to reflect this - perhaps adding a "(religious denomination)" like wikipedia:en:List of Christian Scientists (religious denomination).

Please let me know what you think! Also I feel like we have similar Wikimedia category (Q4167836)-->Wikidata (Q2013) goals and would love to discuss it with you at some point if you have time. :)

Cheers!