Talk:Q9332

sport (Q349) as human behaviour

@Andreasmperu: I don't see any comments about emotion plays a big part d1g (talk) 22:52, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

For the third time, check the definition of human behavior (Q3769299). It involves action + emotion, which doesn't fit for a definition of sports. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 22:55, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

@Andreasmperu: it is not:

human behavior (Q3769299) - range of behaviours exhibited by humans

⟨ human behavior (Q3769299)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ animal behaviour (Q2990593)    ⟩

First sentence from English Wikipedia: Human behavior refers to the array of every physical action and observable emotion associated with individuals, as well as the human race

I don't see how sport (Q349) is not a human behavior. 1 2 d1g (talk) 23:07, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Another edit by @Andreasmperu:

1. You actively removing correct statements
   1. You don't show how sport is not human behavior
   2. You claim things which are weren't claimed by relevant items
2. I don't see references from you

It is enough to type "sport behavior" to get for example Journal of Sport Behavior among 50M results.

@Andreasmperu: is it necessary to ask questions easily answered with simple search?! d1g (talk) 01:05, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

“The Journal of Sport Behavior publishes original, empirical, investigative, and theoretical papers dealing with the studies of behavior in the areas of game and sport.” Sport is not a behaviour, but there are behaviours related to sport activities. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 01:08, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

@Andreasmperu: "Sport is not a behaviour" sources? d1g (talk) 01:10, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Try "sport is a behavior" or "sport is a behaviour" and you get 0 results. But "sport definition" or "sport is an activity" give plenty of options to choose from. For start, The Oxford Dictionary definition I could waste some more time looking for more specialised sources, but this is just common sense. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 01:14, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

@Andreasmperu: "sport is not behaviour" 0 HITS.

d1g (talk) 01:27, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

@Andreasmperu: seriously your edits are not sourced even remotely. I don't see need to create "risk-taking behavior and place sport, gambling and other activities here. d1g (talk) 01:40, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

@Andreasmperu: can you source edits like this one d1g (talk) 03:36, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

@D1gggg: You are the one trying to modify a widely used item. You are the one who should provide sources. I am just restoring the status quo before your interventions. Also, there is no need to ping me every time. I don't that with you out of respect, because I assume you'll answer whenever you have the time and it is a huge inconvenience to have a dozen of emails and notifications just from one person calling for attention. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 03:43, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

There are a lot of behaviours related to sport: consumer behaviour related to people consuming sport events, sporting behaviour (how people act during sport events), aggressive behaviour in sport (lack of fairplay in competitions). But sport itself is not a behaviour. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 01:21, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

This fits human behavior (Q3769299) "range of behaviors exhibited by humans" and biological process (Q2996394)

1. First sentence from English Wikipedia about "the array of every physical action""
2. description of behavior (Q9332) The internally coordinated responses (actions or inactions) of animals (individuals or groups) to internal or external stimuli, via a mechanism that involves nervous system activity.

@Andreasmperu: It should be apparent from Q9332 that it is not limited to biology but may involve related fields as well.

@Andreasmperu: try to understand why there is so many behavior-related papers about sport:

Medicine-focused publication sports activities and risk-taking behaviour

d1g (talk) 01:27, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

You need to provide a source that states that sport is a behaviour. You won't find one, because sport is an activity (plenty of sources say so). Your personal interpretation has no place in a database, only reliable references. The two concepts being mentioned together is, actually, further proof that they are different. A sport activity could appear with a specific behaviour, but the activity itself is not a behaviour, it's still an activity. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 01:33, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

"activity itself is not a behaviour, it's still an activity"

This is so irrelevant to what was said by me or stated right now or ever in descriptions.

You only prove how all of mine edits were correct:

⟨ sport (Q349)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ behavior (Q9332)    ⟩

⟨ behavior (Q9332)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ biological process (Q2996394)    ⟩

⟨ biological process (Q2996394)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ activity (Q1914636)    ⟩

@Andreasmperu: Q349: "sport" "forms of competitive activity, usually physical"

should be behavior (Q9332) indeed, not just activity (Q1914636) d1g (talk) 10:07, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

@Andreasmperu: Every single person on Earth can read activity (Q1914636) is not about activity, usually physical

But: actions that result in changes of state

and

⟨ activity (Q1914636)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ occurrence (Q1190554)    ⟩

These two items say nothing about who does actions (only humans do sport!)

This item is not appropriate or something should be fixed.

I see a lot of words by @Andreasmperu: but not so much action to resolve any incompatibilities. d1g (talk) 10:16, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

@Andreasmperu: you made 3 repetitive edits about "event of sportsperson". This claim make no sense at all:

• ⟨ sport (Q349)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ activity (Q1914636)    ⟩
  of (P642) ⟨ athlete (Q2066131)    ⟩

• ⟨ activity (Q1914636)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ occurrence (Q1190554)    ⟩
• ⟨ occurrence (Q1190554)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ temporal entity (Q26907166)    ⟩
• ⟨ temporal entity (Q26907166)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ entity (Q35120)    ⟩

d1g (talk) 01:45, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

It is far more appropriate at animal behaviour (Q2990593):

⟨ animal behaviour (Q2990593)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ activity (Q1914636)    ⟩

d1g (talk) 01:50, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Related P279 removals in March 2017

• ⟨ action (Q4026292)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ behavior (Q9332)    ⟩
• ⟨ activity (Q1914636)    ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ behavior (Q9332)    ⟩

All these 3 items are relavant, but exact relactions should be decided and reflected in descriptions.

action (Q4026292)    as "something an agent can do or perform" is usable item, but another item is problematic and brigs misunderstanding as "activity" when "human activity" is actually meant or wanted. d1g (talk) 10:59, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

seismological activity is not about agents (or rather natural agents)

but sport and entertainment is clearly about agents

First is about humans

Second is about some animals, including humans. d1g (talk) 11:05, 15 September 2017 (UTC)