Talk:Q5393308

Not a temple

@Ahoerstemeier: A Buddhist complex is not (necessarily) a place of worship (temple). It often contains a temple but not required. It's common Anglo-American bias depicting a Buddhist complex a place of cult of idols - such bias should not be reflected in Wikidata. In Thailand, some Buddhist complexes works primarily as a school.

A Buddhist complex frequently consist of a samgharama/vihara (wihan) and a temple, although in Thailand the temple is frequently merged with the vihara (wihan), by placing a Buddha statue directly inside the vihara. Technically the Buddhist statue should be placed in the cetiya (chedi). This doesn't make a point to remove it from has part(s) (P527). Indeed, each element in has part(s) (P527) may be absent from a Buddhist complex. --173.68.165.114 23:55, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

99% of the items using this item for country (P17) are places of worship, and removing it creates lots of warnings as all the geographic location properties are only allowed on items which are a geographic. Better create a new item for the organization, and keep this one for the actual geographic meaning. Much more common - we have a similar problem with schools, where building and organization also schould be better separated. And of course, hardly any Wikipedia will ever split an article on a Wat into two parts, its purely a Wikidata problem. Ahoerstemeier (talk) 08:22, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Nope. 99% of items using this item for instance of (P31) with a country (P17) tag can be used as places of worship, which doesn't imply they are. For example, you can use the Grand Central Terminal (Q11290) as a toilet because it's equipped with a lot of toilets, but that doesn't imply the Grand Central Terminal (Q11290) is a gigantic toilet. If a place should be called something whenever it can be used as something, then we probably should list Buddhist temple (Q5393308) an instance of museum (Q33506) or even of tourist attraction (Q570116). For the issue of "location properties are only allowed on items which are a geographic", the current configuration with a religious complex (Q98116669) designation already makes it geographic. I didn't meant to separate building from organization. --173.68.165.114 23:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@173.68.165.114: Q5393308 refers to "Buddhist temple" (most, if not all, of Wikipedia links on Q5393308 refer to "Buddhist temple"). If you need an item that refers to such a broader concept as "Buddhist complex", you may create a new item. Please don't change this one. You edits have been reverted. Thanks. --Neo-Jay (talk) 06:40, 31 May 2021 (UTC)