Property talk:P708

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diocese
administrative division of the church to which the element belongs; use P5607 for other types of ecclesiastical territorial entities
DescriptionThe diocese to which the monastery belongs or belonged (also true for persons or organizations)
Representsdiocese (Q665487), eparchy (Q285181)
Data typeItem
Template parameter"diocese" in en:Template:Infobox monastery
Domainperson, place, organization (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed valuesdiocese (Q665487), eparchy (Q285181), apostolic vicariate (Q620225), archeparchy (Q2288631), military ordinariate (Q1531518), territorial abbey (Q1778235), apostolic administration (Q1431554), apostolic prefecture (Q384003) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
ExampleTurku Cathedral (Q1187606)Archdiocese of Turku (Q1365769)
Oulu Parish Union (Q11886117)Diocese of Oulu (Q873680)
Tracking: sameno label (Q47013830)
Tracking: differencesno label (Q47013829)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P708 (Q23909121)
Tracking: local yes, WD nono label (Q47013828)
See alsoreligion (P140), cathedral (P1885), located in the ecclesiastical territorial entity (P5607)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses57,892
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Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P708#Single value, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Qualifiers “start time (P580), end time (P582), point in time (P585), end cause (P1534): this property should be used only with the listed qualifiers. (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P708#Allowed qualifiers, hourly updated report, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (diocese (P708)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P708#Contemporary, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Item “religion (P140): Items with this property should also have “religion (P140)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P708#Item P140, search, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)

Not Catholic only[edit]

I changed the description. For some reason the description of this was "administrative division of the catholic church to which the element belongs", which is incorrect. Diocese is an episcopal term in other Christian churches, not only Catholic. Danrok (talk) 00:02, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Parishes, deaneries etcetera[edit]

At the moment, the label and the description of this item are a little contradictory. The label suggests it is strictly for dioceses, while the description says it is for the "administrative division of the church to which the element belongs". Churches can consist of hundreds of subdivisions at many levels, not just the diocese.

I think it would make sense to transform this property into a holy version of located in the administrative territorial entity (P131), with the label being something like "church administrative unit" and the statement containing the lowest level of church administration (for a church this would typically be its parish). Mapping the ecclesiastical level of different items is definitely something Wikidata should do. Considering we have one unified property for secular subdivisions, it makes sense to have one single property for church subdivisions as well. Väsk (talk) 07:49, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Given all the problems P131 causes, I doubt that. -- Innocent bystander (talk) 19:58, 24 January 2017 (UTC)