Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/ZaBOTka
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- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- Lydia is saying that we can run bots, and you've had unanimous approval for some time and have already done a successful test run. Please make sure that, when they are formalized, you bot meets compliance with the interwiki link import standards. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:52, 25 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Operator: User:Zanka
- Task: write labels based on interwikis automatically
Hi, I want to write Russian labels based on Russian interwikis for existing items automatically. We are discussing it on Russian chat now. It is possible to do the same for other languages. Bot uses pywikidata. Logs are saved in text files and than moved on bot subpages until it will be possible to do the same using API on wikidata (I couldn't find it now). I made few test edits using my account (not bot). Zanka (talk) 22:20, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Please create the bot account's user page, linking it back in some way to the operator account. Please also run around 20 test edits so that we can see it works properly. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:05, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect on my userpage for now. You could see test edits in my Special:Contributions/Zanka November 7 between 16:06 and 16:09. Very few for now, I'll do more after my bot will be auto-confirmed. Zanka (talk) 00:08, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- So this edit was performed by your bot? If it's made only four edits so far and one of them is a mistake, I'm not optimistic that it will be able to reliably produce good labels. --Yair rand (talk) 01:51, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Why do you think it is mistake? Zanka (talk) 02:26, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- There shouldn't be any brackets in description. --Bene* (talk) 14:58, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- We don't have consensus about it yet, do we? In en-wiki I saw very often some additional info in the page title separated by comma not brakets. We don't have it in ru-wiki. Anyway, if the problem only with brackets I could check ruwiki titles and don't add labels if brackets are found. Actually I did it already with some test edits (between Q150 and Q200). You could see Special:Contributions/ZaBOTka and few log pages (User:ZaBOTka/No-Ru-Labels, User:ZaBOTka/No-Ru-Descriptors, User:ZaBOTka/No-Ru-Wiki, User:ZaBOTka/No-Ru-Labels_char). I have some ideas how to deal with brakets too, but they are not coded yet, so lets name it "phase2" for now. Zanka (talk) 15:14, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Unlike page titles on Wikipedia, Wikidata labels do not need to be unique. Duplicate labels are not a problem, so extra words for disambiguation should not be added. This does not only apply to words in brackets, but to all additional disambiguating words. Some examples: w:Mendoza, Argentina would probably be labeled just "Mendoza", w:Spanish language would just be "Spanish" because we don't need to disambiguate from the nationality, w:Democratic Party (United States) could be labeled just "Democratic Party". Automating labels encounters further difficulty from the fact that labels aren't restricted by the same capitalization rules as Wikipedia articles, so labels can be uncapitalized when the word wouldn't appear capitalized in running text. (See WD:Project chat#Capitalization of labels.) --Yair rand (talk) 22:46, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I understand your position but I don't see consensus about it. And I really believe that it should be other place to discuss Capitalization of labels/Descriptors (neither Project chat no Bot permission request). --Zanka (talk) 15:55, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- There shouldn't be any brackets in description. --Bene* (talk) 14:58, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Why do you think it is mistake? Zanka (talk) 02:26, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- So this edit was performed by your bot? If it's made only four edits so far and one of them is a mistake, I'm not optimistic that it will be able to reliably produce good labels. --Yair rand (talk) 01:51, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect on my userpage for now. You could see test edits in my Special:Contributions/Zanka November 7 between 16:06 and 16:09. Very few for now, I'll do more after my bot will be auto-confirmed. Zanka (talk) 00:08, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I think he knows what he is doing, so Support --Bene* (talk) 15:50, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- That's she.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:34, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Uups, I'm so sorry :-/ --Bene* (talk) 20:44, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- No problem :) --Zanka (talk) 20:46, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- What do you think of my bot? --Bene* (talk) 20:55, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- No problem :) --Zanka (talk) 20:46, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Uups, I'm so sorry :-/ --Bene* (talk) 20:44, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- That's she.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:34, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, do not see any problems--Ymblanter (talk) 20:34, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support I do not see any problems with that.--Snaevar (talk) 23:43, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, but only if the code will be shared. :P Jokes apart, I'm really interested in that, I was looking for a script that would have helped me in making Italian labels. Does it works also with descriptions? --Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 00:05, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- See ZaBOTka. It contains link to the first (simplest) version of code. Zanka (talk) 15:55, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. This bot is very needed to maintain Russian labels. However, I would like to ask Zanka to be conservative enough and to listen the community carefully. Drbug (talk) 06:45, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Sure. --Zanka (talk) 13:35, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support per Ymblanter. --Brateevsky (talk) 13:58, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Bots have to do work for bots, not humans. ShinePhantom (talk) 10:50, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support per ShinePhantom. --Dimetr (talk) 03:21, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support per ShinePhantom Lukas²³ talk in GermanContribs 19:12, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support --CENNOXX (talk) 14:01, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- APPROVED See above. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:52, 25 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]