Wikidata:Edit groups/QSv2/71404

Edit group QSv2/71404

Summary	{{{summary}}}	Author	Karl Oblique
Number of edits	1,008 (more statistics)	Example edit	Q996614

Discussion

@Karl Oblique: Why do you delete completely correct statements from several data objects with this batch? I ask you to undo these edits. --Gymnicus (talk) 16:55, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

These were the only 1,000 or so from among several million places in Germany and Austria that had a continent set. In the interest of some degree of consistency, I removed the superfluous statements. Quite a few were also of debatable quality, since “Eurasia” isn’t usually considered to be a continent. Barely any had references. If you think this information is important, would you add it to every other item for a place? There are around 25,000,000 items with located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) and similar, only 80,000 with continent (P30), so by your logic, you should be adding 24920000 continents (except, of course, you are blocked :(. This can be done extremely easy (because the data is redundant), so ask yourself why it hasn’t been done. See also the descriptions on continent (P30): “ Erdteil, auf dem sich das Objekt befindet (bei Ländern und wo es sich nicht aus dem Land ergibt)” / “continent of which the subject is a part”… A church or supermarket is not “part of’ a continent. Karl Oblique (talk) 18:36, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

“These were the only 1,000 or so from among several million places in Germany and Austria that had a continent set. In the interest of some degree of consistency, I removed the superfluous statements.” – Just because the property isn't used that much in data objects doesn't mean that it can't be used there. In your opinion, the statement may be superfluous, but the statement is correct and, as far as I know, correct statements are not deleted.

“Quite a few were also of debatable quality, since “Eurasia” isn't usually considered to be a continent. Barely any had references.” – Why should the statement continent (P30)Eurasia (Q5401) for example in the data object Q996614 be dubious? According to our database, Eurasia is a supercontinent and a supercontinent is a subclass of continent. Therefore you can of course use this statement. If you see them as too general, feel free to add the statement continent (P30)Europe (Q46)reason for preferred rank (P7452)most precise value (Q71536040) with preferred rank. The fact that no sources are used here corresponds, in my opinion, to the principles of the site Help:Sources/Items not needing sources. These statements are so trivial that they don't need a source.

“If you think this information is important, would you add it to every other item for a place?” – I don't see it as my job now to add it to all other data objects, but to data objects that I create, then I would add them, yes. For example with the data object Getzelauer Insel (Q106229327). Because of these I only came across your deletions. --Gymnicus (talk) 17:11, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Seems like was inadvertently implementing the suggestion made in 2015, down to choosing the exact same headline for it :). Maybe take it up with them? See also the property description: “continent where the subject is located. Use for countries, bi-continental areas, locations in Antarctica”. Maybe try discussing it over there. You can still post to discussion pages, right? Speaking of things to discuss: maybe find some other outlet for whatever trait of your subconsciousness motivates your sudden outburst of non-sense complaints? Like origami. Karl Oblique (talk) 18:21, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

“Seems like was inadvertently implementing the suggestion made in 2015, down to choosing the exact same headline for it[.]” – What is this discussion supposed to tell me now? At that time, three users took part. That's not really meaningful, is it? If you want to legitimize your processing with the result of this discussion, then I can only shake my head.

“Maybe try discussing it over there.” – Why should I discuss there? It's about your edits where you deleted correct statements for no reason. That is why this is being discussed here. The talk side of property continent (P30) is the wrong place for this, i think. --Gymnicus (talk) 17:06, 16 December 2021 (UTC)