User talk:Jean-Frédéric/Videogames data model

Ports and Emulation

This one is a bit of semantics, I guess, but I think it also crowds the data when we talk about distribution in emulated form, rather than "native" ports. GOG.com distributes games originally targeted at DOS, but within a DosBox VM. To me this is crowds the wikipedia entry with not particularly meaningful information. (The same for "virtual console" distributions.) I would also not consider open-sourced games being ported as "true" ports. Games ported by third-parties (and sometimes also published by, aka Aspyr Q738135), however I think is appropriate to be included (and this is extremely common).

I have split out some entries where platform versions have the same name but are fundamentally different (Assassin's Creed II has 3 or 4 versions), and in some cases these were developed and even published by different companies. Another case is "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" where two games on the same platform (NES) have the same name, and the PC/Amiga versions have both graphic and action adventure versions. This seemed quite common with licensed games in the 80s and 90s. Grouping them on substantially similar design makes sense. Clarity on how best to group and distinguish is needed (often the wikipedia pages are shared), I'm not sure if it's possible to embed multiple wikidata entries in a single wikipedia page.

List Maintenance

Jean-Frédéric I independently discovered the necessity of using "platform" as a qualifier for everything when trying to make a list work today, so I can see why Wikidata is not ready for prime-time yet. I would like to add that a more immediate concern is that even if we hack together a Wikidata list so that it fits a Wikipedia article, edits to the list in the future would have to be made on Wikidata, which would disenfranchise Wikipedia editors who may not be interested in learning how Wikidata operates. I think the ability for anyone to easily edit a Wikipedia page is a core principle of Wikipedia and would have to be treated delicately when incorporating Wikidata - perhaps by providing a user and inter-wiki interface so that edits on the Wikipedia article would somehow automatically edit the relevant data entries. Though I am new and have noticed a lot of content on Wikidata has been harvested from Wikipedia by bots. Perhaps these bots could be made sophisticated enough to automatically translate any Wikipedia edits to a list into corresponding Wikidata edits.Rampagingcarrot (talk) 12:09, 30 June 2018 (UTC)