User talk:Jabinekene

Igbo lexemes

@Jabinekene: Hello, and welcome to Wikidata. I saw you were creating some Igbo lexemes. I would like to send you some informations that may help you when editing:

• It is not necessary to create a lexeme with an initial capital letter, unless it's the name of a country (for example, Naịjiria) or another word that really needs to be capitalized. This will help other editors to avoid creating duplicates (this happens often, one lexeme is created in uppercase and another in lowercase, even though they are the same).
• Special:NewLexeme can be tedious to create new Igbo lexemes. Instead, use the Wikidata Lexeme Forms tool to create them faster and easier: click here to create a noun and here to create an adjective using the tool. When using it, you can also create a lexeme with more than one possible spelling, separating them with a "/" (example). Also, it is not necessary to add "noun (Q1084)" or "verb (Q24905)" as a "Grammatical feature" of the form (like in this lexeme), because it's already shown at the top of the page (in "Lexical category").

Thank you so much for helping us adding these lexemes. And feel free to ask me any questions if you need help in the future. Enaldodiscussão 22:06, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much for this information which you have shared with me. You have educated me on things I should know. Igbo language is a verbal language and has allot what we call verb roots which are full fledged words but carry different affixation which end up having different meanings and tenses sometimes, so my question is, are we to write just the verb roots or wordform. If we're to write the verb roots, how are we to write it and should the the wordform be included under the verb root and how? Jabinekene (talk) 20:45, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

@Jabinekene: Thank you so much for asking this. About affixation: By fledged words you mean these words like nwa enwe nne enwe nna (L615501), ụbọchị mbụ na izuụka (L525245) and mkpacharaanya (L617617)? I have read about affixes in Igbo and it sounded really interesting. I don't speak Igbo, but I know that affixation isn't a problem to lexemes and can be expressed just like anything else. Prefixes and suffixes can be created as lexemes too (see for example: -ção (L19636) and -ist- (L311196)). Moreover, combines lexemes (P5238) property can be used to represent the attachment on the new lexemes they create (see okulisto (L408689) for example, which combines three lexemes). If this suffixed words get new meanings, then the best thing to do is to create new lexemes with new senses (not matter how many are needed to express the words and their singularities). About Igbo verbs: Now, this is really something that needs to be discussed. The main goal right now is to find the best way to model them (something like a list of possible forms to be shared across the lexemes for verbs). I tried to organize tenses in this template for the WLF tool (that lexeme would be "rie" [eat] and it would have 11 forms to represent the tenses: "rie, erila, na-eri, naghị eri, riri, righị, ga-eri, gaghị eri, riwa, naghị eri and iri"). But the more I search for "Igbo verb tenses" the more I get confused. I also discovered more Igbo tenses on a YouTube video and now my list has grown and got complicated. If you're a native speaker, what do you think about these? Am I missing something? How "fledged" an Igbo verb can get? Sorry for writing so much and thank you in advance. Enaldodiscussão 05:42, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your reply. Am a native speaker of Igbo language and a I teach the language. Talking about a fledged word, the examples are: Mkpacharaanya, Mgbalị, etc. One of the problems we will encounter here is having people who are not linguists or does not know much about Igbo language adding lexemes here just like you pointed out Ụbọchị mbụ na izuụka which is not a word in Igbo language of which he/she meant to write ụbọchị mbụ n'izuụka which is still not a word but a phrase. Affixes in Igbo language is somehow complicated, because we some inflectional suffixes which adds neither meaning or tense, but just complete the words and some prefixes that forms particles. Also, enclitics exist too and most times confused with extensional suffix. If you want to learn Igbo language, I can teach you.

Tenses in Igbo language are formed using different methods,so it has no specific pattern of formation, so to get it right, you have to learn them one after another. The only thing you're missing is your inability to grasp our tonal and verbal Igbo. Jabinekene (talk) 15:51, 5 November 2021 (UTC)