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Autodescription — coat of arms of Central Lithuania (Q3646512)
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Blue saddle and rider's shield?[edit]
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Coat of arms without sources -
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Official description
There are no sources indicating that the rider's saddle and shield were blue. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 12:59, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- On the reliable heraldic site (heraldicum.ru) there is such a description
--Лобачев Владимир (talk) 13:28, 19 July 2021 (UTC)The coat of arms was a red dissected shield, in the right scarlet field there was a Polish silver one-headed crowned eagle, in the left scarlet field there was a silver Lithuanian Pahonia.
- @Pofka: Do you have a source for the coat of arms with a blue saddle and shield? --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 13:28, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Comment Provide non-Russian, non-Belarusian source. Otherwise, it is a pure propaganda of yours (as always). Newspaper is colorless, thus it proves nothing. Лобачев Владимир is a highly problematic user, placed under the discretionary sanctions in English Wikipedia for his disruptive editing (statement by an administrator). Pofka (talk) 18:51, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- Polish source: Elementy tradycji byłego Wielkiego Księstwa Litewskiego w piechocie Wojska Polskiego Drugiej Rzeczypospolitej, 2010, S. 141
Polish original
Dnia 19 kwietnia 1922 roku, również w Wilnie, na Placu Łukiskim ta nieprzepisowa chorągiew, wraz ze sztandarami trzech innych pułków byłej 1. Dywizji Litewsko-Białoruskiej, została udekorowana przez Marszałka Józefa Piłsudskiego Krzyżem Srebrnym Orderu Wojennego Virtuti Militari. Na prawym (głównym), czerwonym płacie sztandaru znajdowały się wyhaftowane białą nicią dwie splecione ze sobą tarcze z herbami Korony – Orłem stylizowanym na godło z okresu ostatnich Jagiellonów oraz z litewską Pogonią. Tarcze miały zaznaczone jedynie kontury, a ich pola stanowił płat chorągwi.
Translation
On the right (main), red panel of the banner there were two intertwined shields with the crests of the Crown - the Eagle stylized as the emblem from the period of the last Jagiellons and with the Lithuanian Pogoń - embroidered with white thread. The shields had only their contours marked, and their fields were a patch of banners.
--Лобачев Владимир (talk) 15:56, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thus, you could not find a source confirming the use of blue in the coat of arms. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 07:03, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
