Talk:Q190965

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Autodescription — transsexualism (Q190965)

description: a person's experiencing a gender identity different from the assigned sex
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Not a disease[edit]

According to WHO: https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/transsexualism-removed-world-health-organization-s-disease-manual-n885141 WanderingWanda (talk) 21:44, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Transsexualism is a bit complicated since it was removed by diagnostic manuals such as the ICD-11 and DSM-5, but is in older manuals like the ICD-10. Transsexualism as a condition or disorder is indeed a thing, and is distinct from concepts such as "being transgender" (including transvestism, self id, or DSM-5's gender identity disorder). Transsexualism being the concept of sexual inversion, and a recognized medical disorder in particular diagnostic manuals. It's a medical disorder that required medical treatments, specifically hormone replacement therapy and sex reassignment surgery. Wikidata requires things with medical treatments to be classified as a medical disorder. So it's an accurate classification, regardless of it's removal from the ICD-11. The ICD-11 denying the existence of transsexualism does not mean transsexualism stops existing. --Kafke (talk) 10:04, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of problems with this entry[edit]

All of the entries relating to sex and gender seem to be a mess, actually. Transsexualism is a particular medical condition in which the patient experiences sexual inversion (an inversion of sexed mental functions). This is separate from the transvestism-related "Gender Identity Disorder" which is more commonly called "Transgender". The page indeed notes that Transsexualism is not the same thing as Transgender. However, there are things such as: it lists transsexual as the opposite of cisgender (this is untrue. transsexuals can either be cisgender or transgender). And it mentions dysphoria, which again is unrelated (dysphoria is a symptom of GID/Transgender, not of transsexualism). Likewise, it being an instance of gender identity is also untrue. As transsexualism is a medical condition, and unrelated to gender/gender identity.

The entire concept of "Gender identity" is horribly vague and unclear, and doesn't appear to have any biological or physical basis, yet it is constantly conflated with sex, and people who identify differently from their sex are for some reason conflated with transsexuals.

Certainly, gender identity should be entirely distinct from sex and "transgender" and the related ideas (dysphoria, gender identity, etc.) should be distinct from transsexual (something that deals with the sex of the brain)?