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Autodescription — Michael Farmer, Baron Farmer (Q17917450)
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second given name (Stahel) for Farmer[edit]
The second given name for Farmer (Stahel) is also the second given name for the father of Baron Farmer (a one David Stahel Farmer), and also for his grandfather on the Farmer side (a one Henry Theodore Stahel Farmer). The name (Stahel, a family name) was given (in all cases) in honor of the maiden (family) name of the great-grandmother of Baron Farmer (on the the Farmer side), a one Maria Elizabeth Stahel. If someone wants to make a new WikiData entry for this name (Stahel) as a given name (which it currently is not), you are welcome. In the real world, family names are not entirely uncommonly used as second (or third) given names (and somewhat more so for male descendants) in honor of some maiden (family) name among the ancestors. WikiData should make some sort of general provision for these cases. --L.Smithfield (talk) 07:50, 1 July 2023 (UTC)