Property talk:P885

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origin of the watercourse
main source of a river, stream or lake

Represents	river source (Q7376362)
Data type	Item
Template parameter	"source" in en:template:geobox, "origin" in en:template:Infobox River
Domain	watercourse (Q355304), fictional river (Q16338046), landform (Q271669), lake (Q23397), spring (Q124714) or artificial pond (Q3253281)
Allowed values	body of water (Q15324), or more specifically watercourse (Q355304) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Example	Inn (Q14369) → Lunghinsee (Q671636) Rhine (Q584) → Tomasee (Q690343) Rivière Manicouagan (Q496274) → Manicouagan Reservoir (Q756106)
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P885 (Q30173521)
See also	mouth of the watercourse (P403), distributary (P5998), outflows (P201)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties By value of property Most statements Fewest statements Most sitelinks Most linked wikis Total of sitelinks on items Most identifiers Fewest identifiers Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Database reports/Constraint violations/P885 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 17,008 Main statement 16,914 99.4% of uses Qualifier 67 0.4% of uses Reference 27 0.2% of uses
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Type “watercourse (Q355304), fictional river (Q16338046), landform (Q271669), lake (Q23397), spring (Q124714), artificial pond (Q3253281)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)” with classes “watercourse (Q355304), fictional river (Q16338046), landform (Q271669), lake (Q23397), spring (Q124714), artificial pond (Q3253281)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P885#Type Q355304, Q16338046, Q271669, Q23397, Q124714, Q3253281, SPARQL

Value type “body of water (Q15324), landform (Q271669), fictional location (Q3895768), geolocatable entity (Q123349660)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31), subclass of (P279) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value body of water (Q15324), landform (Q271669), fictional location (Q3895768), geolocatable entity (Q123349660) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P885#Value type Q15324, Q271669, Q3895768, Q123349660, SPARQL

Item “country (P17)”: Items with this property should also have “country (P17)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P885#Item P17, search, SPARQL

Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P885#Scope, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P885#Entity types

This property is being used by: el:Πρότυπο:Ποταμός, el:Πρότυπο:Ποταμός/αμμοδοχείο, el:Πρότυπο:Πληροφορίες ποταμού uk:Шаблон:Річка ca:Plantilla:Proves persona/actor, ca:Plantilla:Element hidrografia hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Գետ, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Աշխքարտ, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Ջրանցք es:Plantilla:Ficha de lugar ficticio, es:Plantilla:Ficha de cuerpo de agua, es:Plantilla:Wikidata Infobox, es:Plantilla:Ficha de campo minado, es:Plantilla:Ficha de campo minado/zona de pruebas hu:Sablon:Folyó infobox fr:Modèle:Infobox Cours d'eau, fr:Modèle:Infobox Cours d'eau/Bac à sable gu:ઢાંચો:Wikidata Infobox, gu:ઢાંચો:Wikidata Infobox/core pt:Predefinição:Info/Rio/Wikidata, pt:Predefinição:Wikidata Infobox/core eu:Txantiloi:Geografia fisiko infotaula/kokapena tt:Калып:ДәүләтВМ, tt:Калып:ТП-Русия, tt:Калып:ТП-Россия commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core cy:Nodyn:Wikidata Infobox id:Templat:Wikidata infobox, id:Templat:Kotak info Wikidata/inti mw:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core mr:साचा:विकिडाटा माहितीचौकट/core, mr:साचा:विकिडेटा माहितीचौकट/core sa:फलकम्:Wikidata Infobox ur:سانچہ:خانہ معلومات ویکی ڈیٹا/کور, ur:سانچہ:Wikidata Infobox/core q:fr:Modèle:Wikidata Infobox/core ang:Bysen:Cyþþubox ēa ha:Template:Infobox physical geography, ha:Template:Infobox physical geography/location kab:Talɣa:Infobox physical geography, kab:Talɣa:Infobox physical geography/location de:Vorlage:Wikidata Infobox/core ta:வார்ப்புரு:Wikidata Infobox/core hi:साँचा:Wikidata Infobox/core ast:Plantía:Ficha de ríu sv:Mall:Wikidata Infobox/core s:zh:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core ckb:داڕێژە:Wikidata Infobox/core vec:Modèl:Infobox de Fiume, vec:Modeło:Infobox de Fiume az:Şablon:Çay ku:Şablon:Wikidata Infobox/core mnw:ထာမ်ပလိက်:Wikidata Infobox/core ig:Àtụ:Infobox physical geography, ig:Àtụ:Infobox physical geography/location be-x-old:Шаблён:Рака oc:Modèl:Infobox Aiga d:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core no:Mal:Wikidata Infobox/core s:ban:Mal:Wikidata Infobox/core ban:Mal:Wikidata Infobox/core be:Шаблон:Рака lv:Veidne:Wikidata Infobox/core br:Patrom:Infobox dourredenn voy:shn:ထႅမ်းပလဵတ်ႉ:Wikidata Infobox s:hi:साँचा:Wikidata Infobox/core be-tarask:Шаблён:Рака Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Fictional rivers

I have just removed many exceptions that were added to the item-requires-statement constraint (Q21503247). These were all fictional rivers and if there is no obvious country I would recommend adding a country (P17) statement with special "unknown value" or "no value" as appropriate (instead of bloating the constraint). See Help:Statements#Unknown_or_no_values for further information. --SilentSpike (talk) 15:01, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Type constraint: lake

@Pigsonthewing: you recently added "instance of: lake" type constraint here (Special:Diff/1354026206). Why is that? As far as I can see this property is/was for use in watercourse items. There is outflows (P201) property for use in items of lakes that are river sources (including lakes). 2001:7D0:81C5:A580:139:B4C7:BCBD:5C 14:52, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

For Great Barr Hall Lower Lake (Q105277046), for example. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:05, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

This doesn't seem right. Neither this lake nor the linked one is an origin of the watercourse. I think better way should be found to link these two lakes (maybe connects with (P2789) will do). Other than that I can find 15 lake items that currently use this property to link to a river. These should probably be corrected like this: Special:Diff/1603059156. 2001:7D0:81C5:A580:139:B4C7:BCBD:5C 15:29, 26 March 2022 (UTC)