Wikidata:Property proposal/Minerals.net gemstone ID

Minerals.net gemstone ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science

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Description	identifier for a gemstone on Minerals.net
Represents	Minerals.net (Q121890280)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item; gemstone (Q83437)
Allowed values	[a-z\_\-\']+_gemstone
Example 1	amethyst (Q79058) → amethyst_gemstone
Example 2	heliotrope (Q430174) → bloodstone_gemstone
Example 3	diopside (Q316671) → diopside_gemstone
Example 4	chromdiopside (Q2754504) → chrome_diopside_gemstone
Example 5	emerald (Q43513) → emerald_gemstone
Example 6	kyanite (Q193450) → kyanite_gemstone
Example 7	malachite (Q164411) → malachite_gemstone
Example 8	rose quartz (Q429911) → rose_quartz_gemstone
Example 9	tiger's eye (Q430007) → tiger's_eye_gemstone
Example 10	azurite-malachite (Q121890693) → azure-malachite_gemstone
Source	https://www.minerals.net/GemStoneMain.aspx
Planned use	adding to items edited or created
Number of IDs in source	several hundred
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://www.minerals.net/gemstone/$1.aspx
See also	Wikidata:Property proposal/Minerals.net mineral ID
Applicable "stated in"-value	Minerals.net (Q121890280)

Motivation

Chris.urs-o Sbisolo (User:SbisoloBot, Special:Contributions/SbisoloBot) Tobias1984 John Mortimore lmullberry.urs-o--L.mullbery (talk) 09:48, 2 March 2019 (UTC)lmullberry Bug2266 (talk) 15:31, 22 March 2019 (UTC) Vivian S Zitek 00:30, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject Mineralogy

The Minerals.net (Q121890280) website is a free informational and educational guide to rocks, minerals, gemstones, and jewelry. "This site has been providing detailed information and photos of hundreds of mineral and gemstone since 1997 and is one of the leading education resources on minerals and gemstones." Information includes a description of each gemstone, chemical formula, color, hardness, crystal system, refractive index, specific gravity, transparency, luster, cleavage, and mineral class, uses, varieties, sources, similar gemstones, and photographs. AdamSeattle (talk) 19:17, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

 Support Support adding IDs from this source. Riesengrey (talk) 19:18, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 Support I support. metadataguy (talk) 22:06, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

 Oppose as we don't have any identifiers here, I'd rather see this similar to ScienceDirect topic ID (P10376), New York Times topic ID (P3221) or Encyclopædia Britannica Online ID (P1417), i.e. as a one property for both minerals and gemstones (so instead of a value 'amethyst_gemstone', it should be 'gemstone/amethyst_gemstone'). I see no reason to create two properties for a private page. Wostr (talk) 22:42, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Wostr, I see what you're saying here, that these two minerals.net proposals could be one property and include gemstone/ and mineral/ at the start of the values. I can't think of a solid reason why users might prefer two properties over a single combined one. If these URLs are persistent URIs, I think they count as identifiers, and I don't know what the private vs. public status of the page has to do with the number of properties we create for a data source, but I think your suggestion to combine these two property proposals makes sense. --Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries (talk) 15:09, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

 Support --Emwille (talk) 14:42, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

 Comment I've combined the two properties into a single one at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Minerals.net_mineral_ID. AdamSeattle (talk) 22:35, 30 September 2023 (UTC)