Wikidata:Property proposal/Cambridge University Press ID

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Cambridge University Press ID[edit]

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Descriptionidentifier of a book from Cambridge University Press (Q912887)
RepresentsCambridge University Press (Q912887)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainwritten work (Q47461344), book (Q571)
Allowed values[0-9A-Z]\d*
Example 1The Cambridge Companion to American Islam (Q125563950) → 93529C9BCA2398163C90AD5053629161
Example 2The Cambridge Companion to Classical Islamic Theology (Q57946143) → 37EC62C7C84B2A8A62C2F6B9AAEDF22D
Example 3The Cambridge History of Islam (Q5704351) → 07D5BEBF551407754BF887D494B65D44
Example 4The New Cambridge History of Islam (Q25424029) → F5168228014274EAA4D7DCDB25627720
Example 5The Cambridge Companion to Sufism (Q125636500) → A214F31DDBCC5701A4D901EF8481B14E
Example 6Sufism and Early Islamic Piety: Personal and Communal Dynamics (Q125636919) → 355E383FB8CDA5403A450F7774F54E2B
Example 7Philosophers, Sufis, and Caliphs: Politics and Authority from Cordoba to Cairo and Baghdad (Q125689723) → 76D7F1C73E8D4A95EBCF6A45284B368D
Sourcehttps://www.cambridge.org/core/publications/books/
Number of IDs in sourcemore than 40,000 entries
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.cambridge.org/core/books/_/$1
See alsoBook publishers properties
Applicable "stated in"-valueCambridge University Press (Q912887)
Single-value constraintyes
Distinct-values constraintyes
Wikidata projectWikiProject Authority control (Q88300058), WikiProject Books (Q8487081)

Motivation[edit]

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Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: Highly authoritative source in Cambridge University Press (Q912887) (URL: https://www.cambridge.org/core/publications/books/). --Soufiyouns (talk) 05:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

 Comment The slug ("cambridge-companion-to-american-islam") is not needed, the actual id is the string following. You can replace it with '_' in the formatter URL, so they don't need that prefix string at all. So we can have 93529C9BCA2398163C90AD5053629161 as the ID example. ArthurPSmith (talk) 21:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ArthurPSmith: Thanks for the excellent clarification which allowed me to remove the unnecessary prefix string, and here we are now with an alphanumeric identifier. Soufiyouns (talk) 05:40, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment @AdamSeattle: Thank you for your advice and guidance. I have removed examples that have not been published by Cambridge University Press (Q912887). I think that only the links for version items remain in this property proposal. Regards. --Soufiyouns (talk) 05:09, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No that is not the case. All the Cambridge items I looked at are still for the work. They have instance of "written work" or "book" or "book series" and they don't represent the version, edition, or translation. AdamSeattle (talk) 08:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AdamSeattle: Try to suggest me a sample item from the website of Cambridge University Press (Q912887) (https://www.cambridge.org/core/publications/books/). Regards. Soufiyouns (talk) 09:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is an example of how books are described in Wikidata. There is supposed to be an item for the work that is independent of any particular edition or publication of it. And then there are supposed to be items for every published edition or version of that work. For example, this is the item for Toni Morrison's novel The Bluest Eye: The Bluest Eye (Q1069956). The work item cannot have ISBN or catalog numbers for a specific edition. That goes in the items for editions. Here's the item for the first edition of The Bluest Eye: The Bluest Eye: A Novel (Q125910691). The same should be done for each of the Cambridge Press books - an item for the work, and then an item for a specific edition that has information about the date of publication, publisher, place of publication, and ISBNs for that edition. AdamSeattle (talk) 17:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AdamSeattle: Thank you for these clear and precise explanations. If I understood correctly, Wikidata properties should only refer to editions and versions of basic literary works. This requires careful reflection on my part in order to reshape my proposals. Regards. Soufiyouns (talk) 10:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here's another example that I just created for a subject dictionary: The Drama Dictionary (Q125931504) (the work) and The Drama Dictionary (Q125931727) (an edition, version, etc. of the work, which we also call a manifestation). I hope this also helps. And don't forget: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Books. AdamSeattle (talk) 23:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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