Wikidata:Property proposal/Australian Charities and Not‑for‑profits Register Charity ID

Australian Charities and Not‑for‑profits Register Charity ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Organization

   Done: Australian Charities and Not‑for‑profits Register Charity ID (P10081) (Talk and documentation)

Description	unique identifier of a charitable organisation listed in the Australian Charities and Not‑for‑profits Register
Represents	Australian Charities and Not‑for‑profits Register Charity ID (Q109306678)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	charitable organization (Q708676)
Allowed values	[a-f0-9]{32}
Example 1	Wathaurong Aboriginal Co-operative (Q17034165) → c26ddc907de8d41df2a8549ce1014fbf
Example 2	Australian Red Cross (Q4824610) → 3b7aa8b31249837c15657331aeb54821
Example 3	Royal Flying Doctor Service (Q1706756) → 6956d1cce51a39b4e258427f3da36296
Example 4	Wikimedia Australia (Q18559621) → 47aff6a37221b79008ef845d6b2dc707
Source	https://www.acnc.gov.au/charity
Number of IDs in source	58861
Formatter URL	https://www.acnc.gov.au/charity/$1
Applicable "stated in"-value	Australian Charities and Not‑for‑profits Register (Q109306571)
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Australia (Q11036831)

Motivation

Official government identifier that by law must exist for each charitable organization (Q708676) operating within Australia. Dhx1 (talk) 08:59, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

• Thierry Caro 99of9 Canley Mattinbgn Samwilson JarrahTree ScottDavis Oronsay Pru.mitchell Bidgee Harryboyles Dhx1 SJK Nickw25 Danadl MargaretRDonald Nicolekearney Calistemon Eothan Evolution and evolvability REMerrick Atroche The-Pope Bjenks hfordsa SHB2000 AmandaSLawrence Rtbk Chris.sherlock3
  Notified participants of WikiProject Australia --Dhx1 (talk) 08:59, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
•  Support Example 4: Wikimedia Australia (Q18559621) → 47aff6a37221b79008ef845d6b2dc707? --Canley (talk) 12:05, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

• @Canley: Thank you, 4th example added. --Dhx1 (talk) 00:46, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

•  Support. Thierry Caro (talk) 16:57, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
•  Support MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:19, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
•  Support Definitely would use this Pru.mitchell (talk) 02:46, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
•  Support Oronsay (talk) 02:57, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
•  Support nice find! --99of9 (talk) 03:48, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

@Dhx1, Canley, Thierry Caro, MargaretRDonald, Pru.mitchell: @Oronsay, 99of9:  Done Australian Charities and Not‑for‑profits Register Charity ID (P10081) Pamputt (talk) 22:44, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

@Dhx1 @99of9 @Pru.mitchell I noticed today that this identifier may be phased out shortly. When you follow the example links we're taken to a "Paged Move" page, and the only link is to a new identifier. Should we migrate to the new identifiers? Georift (talk) 04:37, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

@Georift: good catch. Since we only have 22 uses so far, I support a migration. --99of9 (talk) 07:52, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

@Georift, 99of9: The identifiers do unfortunately appear to be technology/database specific and subject to change again in the future when the current database product is phased out. However I think both old and new identifiers may be beneficial to retain because of available archives using the old identifiers providing useful information not otherwise published in the new database. An example is the list of responsible persons at [1] (old database) from 2019 versus the list of responsible persons at [2] (new database) from 2022. I cannot find a way to find historical information on responsible persons of a charity in the new database using the new identifier scheme. -- Dhx1 (talk) 16:30, 4 May 2022 (UTC)