User talk:Oliviervd

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Self-referencing value

Hi,

I noticed that on several items you put a self-referencing value « QXXX follows (P155) the same QXXX ». Is it on purpose? (it doesn't seems so - usually it's a mistake -, I start reverting it when I noticed you did it on several items).

See

SELECT ?q ?qLabel WHERE {
  ?q wdt:P155 ?q.
  SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
}

Try it!

(not all yours)

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 14:45, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Vincent van Gogh's occupation

Your recent QS batch #4411 added "author" to Vincent van Gogh (Q5582)'s occupation. This is incorrect. Your QS note says that the addition was based on data.kunsten.be. Looking at http://data.kunsten.be/people/vincent-van-gogh I don't see how you came to conclusion that Vincent van Gogh's occupation was "author". Did your import somehow confuse subject with author? —RP88 ^(talk) 00:27, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

• Hi RP88, First of all it clearly states it on several items, this being just one: http://data.kunsten.be/productions/vincent-van-gogh-correspondentie-van-vincent-van-gogh. Secondly Van Gogh clearly wrote hundreds of letters and kept a diary. Both are published. - Hence, he can and should also be credited as author. Thank you. - there's even a Wikipedia article; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Letters_of_Vincent_van_Gogh

  I think you misunderstood my point, this isn't about "crediting him as an author". I am, of course, aware of the letters written by Vincent van Gogh (mostly exchanged with his brother) and their posthumous publication. I didn't say Vincent van Gogh wasn't an author, I said it wasn't his occupation. For example, I myself have several published writings, so I suppose you could call me an author, but I would never claim my occupation as that of an author. Similarly, you could find my name listed as a driver at a professional auto racing event, but I'd definitely never describe my occupation as "racing driver". Is the issue that I have perhaps misunderstood how Wikidata uses the "occupation" property? Has Wikidata adopted a nomenclature where the "occupation" property is actually more like a list of "any human activity" performed by the subject, rather than a more conventional definition of "occupation"? —RP88 ^(talk) 10:58, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

  If you look at the property description it clearly states in multiple languages (for example german, dutch and french) that the property is also used for hobby, Tatïgkeit, activiteit (bezigheid in dutch), etc etc. If we would now for example follow your opinion then I would argue that it makes no sense whatsoever to claim that for example Anne Frank had the occupation "diarist", not to mention that there is no such "occupation" and she never was aware of the fact that these would be published, let alone was employed to do so.

subject has role (P2868) vs. object has role (P3831)

Hello Oliviervd, thank you for your items about ballet/operativ productions! I just noticed that you use subject has role (P2868) to indicate the specific role of a cast member in the context of cast member (P161) statements. subject has role (P2868) should be used to indicate the role of the subject of the statement (in the form <subject><predicate><object>). In a statement like Q57508244 cast member (P161): Reinhilde Decleir (Q2125919)/subject has role (P2868):actor (Q33999) this would mean that Q57508244 has the role of a actor (Q33999). This does not make much sense. object has role (P3831) is the qualifier to use here, as you want to indicate that Reinhilde Decleir (Q2125919) works as a actor (Q33999) and Reinhilde Decleir (Q2125919) is the object (value) of the statement. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 08:41, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

• is there a way to redirect this in Batch? Otherwise i'll undo the batch and reupload them in a correct manner. Thanks for the advise. It can get complicated sometimes..

It is possible via pywikibot. I already wrote a script for a similar task and would take care of this (I already started to redirect them ([1]/[2]). - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 10:44, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

thank you! - Oliviervd

Strange nationality

Hi,

This edit Special:Diff/631489465 is strange, Antillia (Q576922) is a phantom island that never existed, it's unlikely to be a correct value for country of citizenship (P27). Could you take a look?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 10:25, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Overzicht

Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Collection/King Baudouin Foundation. Kleur jij het verder in? Multichill (talk) 20:39, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi Multichill, jazeker! Bedankt hiervoor, ik was het zelf aan het uitzoeken hoe ik een projectpagina startte!  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Oliviervd (talk • contribs) at 21:52, 3 December 2018‎ (UTC).

Mooi. Vergeet niet je reacties te ondertekenen met ~~~~ dan werkt de ping ook. Multichill (talk) 21:00, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

::: Ik vroeg mij af of het ook mogelijk is om een pagina te genereren waar alle werken (data) gedoneerd door de Koning Boudewijnstichting staat. Dus niet enkel gelimiteerd tot de schilderijen. Ik zou het willen gebruiken als een projectpagina (soortgelijks aan deze die gemaakt werkt voor het project met de Vlaamse Kunst Collectie) - en dus ook een projectbeschrijving ed. toevoegen. Ik probeerde zelf de broncode te repliceren maar het lijkt niet te werken. zie: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:King_Baudouin_Foundation,_Wikidata_and_Linked_Open_Data(talk) 10:39, 4 December 2018 (UTC) ~~~~

Namen van personen

Hallo Oliviervd,

Ik zie dat je (o.a.) op 5 juni van een groot aantal artiesten de naam hebt veranderd in het Nederlandstalige label. Daarbij heb je de achternaam vóór de voornaam geplaatst, zoals hier en [3]. Dat is niet de gebruikelijke manier om (Nederlandse) personen aan te duiden. Zou jij dit, met de data die je toen voorhanden had, ongedaan willen maken?

Gegevens van personen komen op de Nederlandse Wikipedia nu wat meer in zicht met de lijsten van personen geboren op/in en overleden op/in die RonnieBot maakt, gebaseerd op Wikidata. Dat betekent enerzijds dat we een hoop meer gegevens kunnen laten zien, de willekeurige en incomplete opsomming zoals 8 april of 1993 kan hiermee ingehaald worden. Dat betekent ook dat er vanuit de Nederlandse gemeenschap meer hulp kan komen om de data op Wikidata te verbeteren.

Alvast bedankt voor het herstel van die namen! Met vriendelijke groet, RonnieV (talk) 23:32, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

beste RonnieV, ik ga eens na of ik kan zien welke namen alsnog in de foute orde zijn aangepast. De wijzigingen zijn gebeurd tijdens een massa-import uit de data.kunsten.be databank, de online databanken voor Podiumkunsten in Vlaanderen van Kunstenpunt. - we spreken hier over 10.000 plus namen (waarvan heel wat nieuwe, ik vermoed dat het meer dan de helft nieuwe - en dus tot op dan toe onbekende namen voor zowel Wikipedia en Wikidata. Ik kijk of ik de foutjes kan traceren! ps: ik werk steeds met de uiterste zorg, maar wanneer je een massa aan data (steeds in samenwerking met de donerende instelling) gaat publiceren is de kans niet onrealistisch - ongeacht het vele opkuiswerk en voorbereiding - dat er hier en daar toch nog wat onzuiverheden doorkomen. Met vriendelijke groet, Oliviervd (talk) 06:24, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Beste Oliviervd,

In de gegevens die ik voor de geboorte- en overlijdenslijsten uit Wikidata haal, voor in de Nederlandse Wikipedia bekende personen, zie ik nu geen personen van wie de naam ten onrechte met 'De' of 'Van' begint. Daarvoor heb ik wel een paar bewerkingen van ongedaan gemaakt in de afgelopen (zeg) week. Dat sluit niet uit dat er nog ten onrechte hoofdletters worden gebruikt, dat ik andere namen over het hoofd heb gezien of dat er later alsnog personen opduiken.

data.kunsten.be plaatst onterecht hoofdletters bij een aantal namen. In Nederland zijn de tussenvoegsels geen onderdeel van de achternaam en worden standaard zonder hoofdletters geschreven. In België worden deze wel als onderdeel van de achternaam beschouwd en krijgt deze in deel van de gevallen een hoofdletter. Bij John van de Rest] schrijft data.kunsten.be [http://data.kunsten.be/people/john-van-de-rest 'John Van De Rest' als volledige naam, maar het lijkt erop dat je zelf de delen Naam (Van De Rest) en voornaam (John) in de Vlaamse volgorde samenvoegt. Zie voor de hoofdletters ook Youp Van 't Hek, waar onder 'auteur van' en 'documenten over' wel zijn naam op de Nederlandse (correcte) wijze geschreven wordt). Met vriendelijke groet, RonnieV (talk) 10:19, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Beste RonnieV, ik was mij er niet van bewust dat dit verschil bestond (schrijfwijzen van achternamen). Ik heb helaas niet kunnen nagaan of een achternaam al dan niet ten onrechte verkeerd is opgenomen in de Kunstenpunt databank. Ik heb sinds die upload wel de gewoonte aangenomen om enkel nog te uploaden onder alias. Hierdoor vermijden we dergelijke problemen. (ik was er mij toen nog niet van bewust dat wanneer je iets upload als alias deze automatisch wordt doorgewezen naar Label indien deze nog ontbreekt, hierdoor vermijden we ook om bestaande labels te overschrijven.) Met vriendelijk groet, Oliviervd (talk) 10:34, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Beste Oliviervd, Goed om te horen dat je de werkwijze op dit punt verbeterd hebt. Laten we vooral samen kijken hoe we Wikidata en Wikipedia nog beter kunnen krijgen, met (gecontroleerde) gegevens uit alle mogelijke bronnen. Goed om te zien dat jij ook belang hecht aan validatie vooraf en openstaat voor voorstellen ter verbetering. Met vriendelijke groet, RonnieV (talk) 10:42, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

copyright statements

Please do not add copyright status (P6216) statements claiming Public Domain, without applies to jurisdiction (P1001) and determination method (P459) qualifiers, explaining how you determined that. --Jarekt (talk) 21:22, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

About Marie-Louise Dupont (Q59419456)

Hello I saw you declared Marie-Louise Dupont (Q59419456) (which I created) as owner of Collection of bas-reliefs belonging to Marie-Louise Dupont (Q59945273). However, this could not be the case as Marie-Louise Dupont (Q59419456) was created after Marie-Louise Dupont, spouse of Joseph-Marie Toullec (1826-1891). Could you create an another item, please ? Thanks, Hopala! (talk) 15:49, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Q52225598

Hi,

Deconinck (Q52225598) is in Wikidata:Requests for deletions for months now, can you maybe provide some more information to make it clearer.

PS: the link on Q41793439#P856 doesn't work anymore.

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 13:58, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Q55336220 - Dutch label is White Suprematism? How did that happen?

Hi Olivier, curious how your OpenRefine batch set might have caused this Dutch label to be applied against "tentoonstelling" which actually means "exhibition". Perhaps some data error or incorrect column in OpenRefine was applied on this batch load? Regardless, I wanted to let you know so you might want to go back and check on that batch data load https://tools.wmflabs.org/quickstatements/#mode.3Dbatch.26batch.3D3008 - Thanks! Thadguidry (talk) 00:57, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Art Exhibition Q55352388

Hi, you generated Q55352388 but gave no name. If it was an art exhibition, it should have a name. Or at least some link to a description. Di you have any information about it? -- Gerd Fahrenhorst (talk) 12:08, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

@Gerd Fahrenhorst: it has a label: "In between, das Kunstprojekt der Expo 2000 - Lily van der Stokker, Marijke van Warmerdam, Gabriel Orozco, Albert Oehlen, Roman Signer…" (in Dutch). You probably have to click the "all entered languages" ("Alle eingegebenen Sprachen") link to see it. Multichill (talk) 12:13, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I copied most of it to the German and English description. -- Gerd Fahrenhorst (talk) 12:30, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Wrong Organization ID on the item

Hi, I noticed that the item Brotfabrik Bonn (Q990767) and Brotfabrik (Q990769) do have the same Flanders Arts Institute organisation ID (P5164). Is there a possiblity to check which ID is assigned to which organization? (Boxomi (talk) 12:22, 10 December 2019 (UTC))

Items met mojibake in de titel

Het viel me op dat veel theatrical production (Q7777570) last hebben van mojibake (Q152869) in de titel. Ik heb dit geprobeerd op te lossen, zie de volgende bewerkingen: 1, 2, 3, 4. Ik heb voor deze items de titel uit de bron Flanders Arts Institute production ID (P5935) gehaald. Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 14:32, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

New OpenRefine reconciliation service

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Fatina Laila (Q52635125)

Hi Olivier,

do you have a birthday and -place for this person?--木米 (talk) 15:55, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Young Joo Lee (Q55236562)

Young Joo Lee is missing further sources and biographical data.

Kind regards Mugshot Hugger (talk) 18:31, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Automated report of empty item: Q116453912

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Automated report of empty item: Q116449371

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Automated report of empty item: Q116453906

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Q55367453

Hello, do you remember where these informations come from ? I don't find them in this list, where expositions from 1995 to 2022 are described. Best regards Reptilien.19831209BE1 (talk) 13:20, 8 March 2023 (UTC)