User talk:Mike Novikoff

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Best regards! Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:23, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Congrats

Congrats Mike on your rollbacker status~JJBullet~ {Talk} 09:53, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for removing non-genre statements

Hi, first of all thanks for removing non-genre statements that I have added. All of those edits where made automatically with a script. I will also look into all my edits and remove non-genre statements. The reason for adding wrongly statements is a script error. I have created a task on phabricator, so this wont happen again :) - Premeditated (talk) 19:12, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

So my guess was right, I supposed something like that. Indeed, they could exclude at least the internal links found within {{cite web}} (or, better still, within any <ref>), which seems to be the cause for most of the cases. — Mike Novikoff 03:50, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Alias in Russian

Hey Mike, Is there a reason why you are putting Russian label alias in English? Thanks! :) ‐‐1997kB (talk) 09:23, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

It's not a label (which is in Russian really), it's an alias. Generally, I adhere to Help:Aliases (along with Help:Label and Help:Description); it says that aliases are used for searching and so alternative spelling is useful while alternative word order is not (see Help:Aliases § Criteria for inclusion and exclusion). — Mike Novikoff 09:55, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Sorry if you thought that I was talking about label, honest mistake.. it was about alias. How I see is that alias are added in same language as the language of row. Like if you want to add alias in Russian label/description row it needs to be in Russian. Correct me if I am wrong, but if you search Skai Jackson without adding in Russian alias, it still gives you results as there's one in English row. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 16:01, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

I don't really know all the details of the local search engine, I seldom use it myself. It gives the results from the English row for me too, but that's because I have English in my Babel just like you do (and furthermore, I have also set it in my preferences, I use English interface for the site). Not sure what the users with different language settings will get. I just see that adding names and titles in their original language as aliases for other languages is a rather common practice. For instance, similar aliases in English for Chinese. — Mike Novikoff 20:35, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Yeah I have seen those alias many times, that's why came to ask. Anyways thanks for explanation. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 03:34, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

I. I. Mechnikov

I added the alias "I. I. Mechnikov" to Élie Metchnikoff (Q172254) because he is in fact referred to as such in English sources, as indicated by simple perusing of Google Books. The aim of my addition was to increase clarity and utility. Cheers, -Animalparty (talk) 01:00, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

And I don't get the point of removing the subject's full name, "Ilya Ilyich Mechnikov", or other common aliases. Are you trying to make data more difficult to find and link to? -Animalparty (talk) 01:06, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Per Help:Aliases, they are meant for WD local search. Moreover, the search results depend on user's language settings. Thus, it's hard to imagine that someone would ever type exalcty 'I. I. Mechnikov' in the search box. As for 'Ilya Ilyich Mechnikov', it was an alias for Russian language, and it's similarly unlikely that anyone who uses Russian would ever search for a transliteration of the native Russian name. — Mike Novikoff 01:30, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

From Wikidata:Glossary: "Aliases help people to find an item even if they don’t search with the label." And you might be surprised what other people might reasonably think to search for, even if you do not. There may be some confusion between us here: I never edit Russian aliases, only English ones. Common versions/variants of a name should certainly be included. Per Help:Aliases: "You should always include: Full names for people commonly known by a nickname or by a fraction of their full name..." The first sentence of en:Élie Metchnikoff begins "Ilya Ilyich Mechnikov..." And the author abbreviation Metschn. is standardized by the International Plant Names Index, such that almost any botanical/mycological publication with that abbreviation unambiguously refers to Élie Metchnikoff (Q172254). I look at aliases as similar to redirects in Wikipedia: helping people (and/or bots) reasonably find what they are looking for more quickly, and reducing the chances of confusion or duplicate creations. Note that Help:Aliases (at least the English-language version) is a work in progress: not a formal policy or guideline. But even then, if you feel you must adhere to it, please re-read: "unlike labels there can be as many aliases for an item as necessary." Cheers, -Animalparty (talk) 02:00, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Full name for Élie Metchnikoff (Q172254) in Russian is 'Илья Ильич Мечников' and it's surely included there, it's even a label.

Thanks for a source for 'Metschn.', I didn't know that. Feel free to put these back if you will.

I agree that aliases are similar to redirects. And, similarly to them, just because you can create many doesn't mean you should create more than necessary. Redundancy is an awful thing in all the WMF projects (and outside them too), I always struggle against it, as both WP:MOS and my understanding of WD:UCS prescribe. (Btw, my respect to those who have worded the 5th pillar here at WD in such a cute and positive way!). And yes, our policies here are somewhat underdeveloped, but we must adhere to something apart from IAR, and I'll be glad if we clarify our policies. — Mike Novikoff 03:30, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

And just in case you haven't yet seen a real redundancy and havoc, take a look at this. No, I haven't eliminated it, I'm just scared. No way! It would take Mr. Somebody to deal with it. As with all the stuff that is carelessly included just "because included". ;-\ — Mike Novikoff 06:25, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Please help

How it dont feel constructive

That is Angelina's official twitter account

She does not have a Facebook or instagram

so I dont know

why u did that

and how is it not related to her

I wanna know why

because moonliIIies is her official Twitter account

named after her nickname

not the one with the ls, moonlillies

Somebody stole that from her

when you search her name up on Twitter, it comes up under pure heart dumbass angie

its the first search result for her real name Angelina jolie lai fatt

and a bunch of other fan accounts for her name

and when u search her name up on Facebook and Instagram, only fan accounts and people impersonate her exist

but shes not on there but her husband is,

at @305kyleklf

she once said that on BBC that she doesn't have a official Facebook or Instagram

unlike her husband

because

she dont wike it

that is where she depends on whenever or not

she'll join facebook or Instagram any time

so please stop removing my edits

and thank you

 - Anu Sachdeva, January 2020

Please
I would like to know

 - Anu Sachdeva, January 2020

I've posted a question at WD:AN, let's see what they'll say. And please excuse me if I've been wrong, I'm really not sure now. — Mike Novikoff 10:00, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

For reference, a link to the complete archived discussion at AN. — Mike Novikoff 18:10, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Woody Woodpecker

Mike Novikoff if you editor Woody Woodpecker (Q59828807)

But the Portuguese article by Woody Woodpecker (série) from Wikipedia, was redirected back to The Woody Woodpecker Show.

I'm trying to re-edit the article by Woody Woodpecker (série), but Usuário:Fabiojrsouza & Usuário:79a do not stop redirecting or blocking.

I'm so sorry! — 177.54.229.65 (talk)

Well, it seems that there are currently two items: The Woody Woodpecker Show (Q3284351) and Woody Woodpecker (Q59828807), each containing its own set of articles. I don't really know the difference between the two, but is it right? And if not, what exactly should be changed?

If pt:Woody Woodpecker (série) redirects to pt:The Woody Woodpecker Show (which I didn't notice before), then it clearly doesn't belong in Woody Woodpecker (Q59828807) and your edit is correct. It there anything else that should be changed yet? — Mike Novikoff 15:20, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

I don't know! Mike Novikoff, no, I saw that the article in Portuguese Woody Woodpecker (série) was blocked by Usuário:Fabiojrsouza, He will be unlocked until November 6, 2020. Only detail, but if I re-edit the article Woody Woodpecker (série), The user 79a He revert and redirect back to the The Woody Woodpecker Show, and then it will be blocked with infinite forever and there is no way!. He doesn't have a good excuse! — 177.54.229.65 (talk)

Ready!, I did not reissue the article by Woody Woodpecker (série), But I edited the article Woody Woodpecker, (The problem is the articles of Woody Woodpecker (série de filmes) was blocked Infinito by Usuário:Editor D.S.) wait for Mike Novikoff o Usuário:79a it will continue to redirect the article of Pica-Pau (personagem) again!.

god's green earth

Hi there! IPI numbers in the alias field is simply a shortcut used by those of us who edit songwriter credits as it saves a lot of time and eliminates doubt when composers are named the same. Nothing nefarious! ;) Moebeus (talk) 00:28, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Can you please make it written in Help:Aliases (provided that such a change would gather enough consensus, as opposed to the things that would not)?. I'll always follow the rules, you see. — Mike Novikoff 01:50, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Что вы имели в виду?

своим описание правки: [1] ? ShinePhantom (talk) 05:11, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Про "мораторий" — как будто ты уже не помнишь? Угробили всю тогдашнюю группу инженеров, и возродить её уже вряд ли когда-нибудь получится, вместо неё теперь какая-то {{сидификация|ПТУ}}. :-\ Заодно ещё отсеальлили и отдесьтибазедтили меня (то есть, напрочь изгадили мне лог блокировок), на ровном месте практически, так что я теперь просто боюсь там появляться, в вашем гадюшнике. В результате угробили и наш проект Мосметро, где основными активистами на тот момент были я и ØM (который, глядя на это, тоже ушёл). Молодцы вы там, [beep]!

Вот уже полтора года как подобные тебе вынудили меня уйти из ruwiki (к огромному моему сожалению, вы там победили в детсадовской игре "Царь горы"), но иногда я ещё встречаю ваши дебильнейшие "правки участника"(tm) в других местах, в том числе здесь. Привет Бикозу Гондонычу Инклюдеду! Надеюсь, хотя бы здесь удастся найти управу на вас, мудаков (обычно это тут получается, невзирая на флаги мудаков, даже на здешние, даже на админские). — Mike Novikoff 07:40, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Неверные действия других не должны быть оправданием для откровенно неверных действий с вашей стороны. Зарепортил. Carn (talk) 08:58, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

@ShinePhantom: Как сказал однажды мой бывший старинный друг LLeo Каганов: "ах, какой прекрасный пуканбомбирит!"

Да, я тогда был шокирован и не знал что ответить Каганову, "lost for words".

Но ты-то мне другом не был никогда, так что я не удивлён, что ты обратился в чатики-браччучатики. Ну, попробуй сейчас сделать revdel на этой фразе чатики-браччучатики, сказанной мной, разумеется, в честь вашего кукловода ru:user:D.bratchuk и его кукол ru:user:Futsal.kharkov и ru:user:Good Will Hunting. Гы-гы-гы, у первой куклы не хватило чатиков-браччучатиков, поэтому "опытный участник" Лёня-Дай-на-хер (ой, какой опытный!) не распознал там куклу Дениса.братчука и потому не выдал ПАТ (потому что не распознал куклу). Зато второй кукле, гораздо более бережно выращиваемой, повезло аж вот так: "итог". Итог чего? А, Трёхтопоровщик? А потом ещё сразу ЗСА, где... тьфу, короче. Ну, попробуйте-ка здесь revdel.

И вообще, придурки, вы уж вспомните-то хоть об эффекте Стрейзанд. Чем позже вы успокоитесь, тем больше я расскажу. — Mike Novikoff 11:02, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020

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3 days, continued personal attacks after a very clear warning. You have clearly seen this, I was very clear that this behavior is not acceptable, but you still have chosen to continue. Here we are. The next block will be of a longer duration.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:17, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

@Ymblanter: Congrats! You've just killed me. Yaroslav, I have zero toleration for such cruel sanctions, there's no place for me without a clean log, so now I've got no choice but to leave. You've just effectively made an indef. :(((

So you are on their side and won't even look at my arguments? And you do this when I've pinged you myself? It reminds me of this. It's my hardest disappointment now: I had believed in your opposition to ruwiki's clans, and now they win because of you. :-\ — Mike Novikoff 13:30, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

I am sorry but I do not think I should be responsible for your own constructions which you built in you head. I told you last time very clearly that civility requirements are not optional here, you have chosen not to listen. This was your choice, not mine. If you now decide to leave, this would be your choice as well. May be you are on a war, but I am not.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:35, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

@Ymblanter: War is the last thing that I'll think of. Shall I teach you that WP is about collaboration, not competition? "Constructions in my head" are just WP policies that I've learned before I had even created my account. Of course I'm very upset when the written policies are broken, and even more so when I discover some unwritten policies instead. (BTW, we are facing "1 July 2020" in Russia, if you know what I mean). You see, Carn have even accepted that he came from a chat. So what my "incivility" is?

— То есть, как на увольнение? — шепчет Андрей Иванович. — Но ведь это же произвол!.. У вас нет оснований!..

— Оснований больше чем достаточно! — отрубает Юрий Михайлович. — Вам нужна формулировка? Неэтичные выпады в адрес советских и партийных руководителей. И пусть ещё скажут спасибо, что только увольнение, а не семидесятая статья!

—Леонид Филатов, "Сукины дети"

Ярослав, я в любом случае не подойду к компу в ближайшие три дня. Есть ли шансы скрыть муйню из лога? (Блин, надо ли ещё объяснять, что именно в этом главное наказание: в логе, пожизненное!) — Mike Novikoff 15:13, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

No, we do not revision-delete logs unless they contain serious BLP violations.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Personal attack removed

Hi! I'm afraid I had to remove a section from your use page because it appeared to constitute a personal attack. If you have concerns about an administrative action, you should raise them for discussion at WD:AN. If you choose to do so, I strongly recommend that you do so with more civility. Happy editing! Bovlb (talk) 15:55, 11 August 2020 (UTC)