User talk:Effeietsanders

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— Cirt (talk) 15:32, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Bonvenon al Wikidata! – Welcome to Wikidata!

Welcome Effeietsanders! In order to benefit from this site please add the Babel template to your user page and identify some appropriate tools for user:Effeietsanders/common.js. Good luck and best regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 12:11, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi לערי ריינהארט,

I understand your intentions are good. However, please let me explain the experience this message gave me. I got an email, telling me that <some not understandable string of characters> left me a message on Wikidata. I never heard of this person before (and if I did, I probably wouldn't recognize the name), and I haven't been active for a while on Wikidata, so it must be important! Then I get here, and all I see is a very short message that looks like a generic '+1 welcome'. Then reading it more closely, it is telling me to 'identify some appropriate tools' and add a 'babel template'. However, you don't tell me why I would want that (what's in it for me?) or even make a suggestion what templates I might want to add or which tools I could identify (the latter I still don't know). Finally, you could read in your message that I must do these two things to keep using Wikidata. I'm still not sure if that is what you intended or not.

Anyway, again I understand your intentions are good. I just hope you can use this feedback to rephrase your message. Maybe you could even create different character accounts and use the most understandable one based on people's expected character sets (i.e. based on their own username). It might make the experience already much more comfortable - not that I have anything against Hebrew, but for me it's just yibberdiyab and I can't pronounce who's talking to me. A bit more explanation in your message might also be helpful. Not just links, but actual explanation why I would want this. Keep up the undoubtfully good work! (I'll also post this on your own talkpage) Effeietsanders (talk) 17:54, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Dear Effeietsanders! 1) I was looking at the history of eo:MediaWiki:Common.js and / or eo:MediaWiki:Sitenotice today and have seen your contribution there made long time ago. When starting at WMF I used the nickname gangleri and changes it to a name which was given to me on yiwiki (witch may be read as "leri raynhart"). The benefit of changing the user name was that together with Nikerabbit we started to fix BiDirectional issues in MediaWiki and issues related to SPACE's in user names.

2) Some basic usefull Javascripts are:

importScript( 'User:Magnus_Manske/missing_props.js' );
importScript( 'User:Underlying lk/reasonator.js' );

additoinal ones (including clones) are listed at User:Rotsaert8000. It is very hard to get people involved in Wikidata. I want to attract schoolars and scientists from various minority language communities with historical background about people, organizations and minority related topics. I experienced that people would never tell that Wikidata is to complicated for newbies and I experienced myself how complicated it is to find appropriate tools as "missing props.js" and "reasonator.js". The later can be used at all mWikipedias and provides a graphical interface on top of Wikidata. Two examples: related to Esperano and a draft related to Yiddish . Greetings from Munich, Germany gangleri aka לערי ריינהארט (talk) 18:42, 13 March 2014 (UTC)