Talk:Q43445

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Autodescription — female organism (Q43445)

description: sex of an organism that is intended to produce ova
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Excludes humans?[edit]

This item used to include all female organisms, but now it excludes humans. This doesn't make much sense, because female (Q6581072) is a subclass. Either it shouldn't be a subclass, or this item should include humans. Ghouston (talk) 00:59, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'll change female (Q6581072) so that it's not a subclass (and likewise for the male equivalent), but consider the other option. Ghouston (talk) 01:05, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose we could make another item that would include all females, human and non-human, although the human/non-human distinction seems pretty silly to me. Ghouston (talk) 01:10, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Tagishsimon:, you made a major change in the definition of this item. Apart from the issue above, note that en:Female is sitelinked here. That now makes no sense since en:Female includes humans. I suggest putting this item back how it was, and creating a new item for non-human female organisms if it's needed. Ghouston (talk) 09:22, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bah. I'd like to say "I did not make a major change", and indeed have done so in two prior & now deleted posts. But I'm forced to agree with you. The issue was to remove the wikidata specific instructions from the description, since these screw up any use of the description outside wikidata. The question now is how best to achieve this. The same issue attends to male. --Tagishsimon (talk) 11:20, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I suppose one solution would be to run a bot occasionally that moves all the human items to female (Q6581072). There are other similar cases, like instances of Homo sapiens (Q15978631). Ghouston (talk) 08:16, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]