Wikidata:Property proposal/tribus
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tribus[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person
Not done
| Description | Each of the 35 constituencies into which the ancient Romans were divided for electoral reasons |
|---|---|
| Represents | tribus (Q938560) |
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | human (Q5), city (Q515) |
| Example |
Motivación[edit]
The official designation of each Roman in republican times consisted of the praenomen, the nomen, the filiation and the tribus. As the Roman state expanded, it granted the right of citizenship to various populations and towns that were ascribed to existing or new tribus. During the High Imperial period, the tribus system was maintained. For modern historians, knowing an individual's tribus provides clues to his or her origo. I think we should have a property for this concept.
I put it in person, although it is valid for persons and places.
Romulanus (talk) 10:10, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
Oppose. Use member of (P463). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:25, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- member of (P463) says «Do not use for membership in ethnic or social groups». A tribus is a social group. --Romulanus (talk) 23:24, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose I think we can use ethnic group (P172) -Theklan (talk) 11:37, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- This property is used to refer to peoples: Jews, Arabs, Russians... A tribus has nothing to do with it. It was another division of Roman citizenship that had nothing to do with ethnicity: one person from Spain, another from the Balkans and a third from Syria could belong to the same tribus and at the same time be in origin of different peoples: Hispanic roots, Dalmatian roots, Syrian roots. Moreover, a city could belong to one tribus and several of its inhabitants to different tribus. It depended on where their ancestors had obtained citizenship. I think there is currently no property that fits the Roman tribus. Nor is there a modern concept for it. --Romulanus (talk) 00:32, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: I'm not familiar with the topic but I think we can make an exception and use member of (P463), if that's not possible, then you have my
Support Germartin1 (talk) 14:55, 24 October 2018 (UTC) - Can family (P53) work? Or social classification (P3716)? --Yair rand (talk) 21:58, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Cwf97 (talk) 15:42, 3 December 2018 (EST)
Not done No support.--Micru (talk) 14:40, 19 December 2018 (UTC)