Wikidata:Property proposal/requires grammatical feature

requires grammatical feature

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes

   Done: requires grammatical feature (P5713) (Talk and documentation)

Description	grammatical features required or generally used with lexeme or form of lexeme
Data type	Item
Domain	lexemes
Allowed values	grammatical features, such as mood
Example 1	bien que (L10102) -> subjunctive (Q473746)
Example 2	apud (L11769) -> accusative case (Q146078)
Example 3	ab (L13362) -> ablative case (Q156986)
Planned use	add to fr lexemes
See also	has grammatical mood (P3161), has grammatical case (P2989), ..

Motivation

Note that these aren't grammatical features of the lexeme, but of those a lexeme is used with. (Add your motivation for this property here.)
--- Jura 11:16, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Comment I wonder if it could be property of the form rather than lexeme, in other words whether two different forms of the same lexeme could require two different grammatical features. KaMan (talk) 11:41, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
  • If so, the statement should be on the form, not the lexeme directly. Don't hesitate to add samples to the proposal.
    --- Jura 11:53, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
  • @KaMan: added a sample for that. What do you think of the proposal?
    --- Jura 08:40, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

    @Jura1: while I agree we need some way to describe syntax, I think your example is wrong. vowel (Q36244) is not grammatical feature. The thing you want to present with your new example I markup with vocalic form (Q55082724) and non-vocalic form (Q55082712), see z (L3401) for example. KaMan (talk) 09:01, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

    • Ok. I removed the sample. We might want to discuss it elsewhere. If you are ok with the proposal as such, I'd mark it as ready.
      --- Jura 09:25, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

      @Jura1: I think we will need more to describe syntax in the future but it can be for starter  Support KaMan (talk) 10:05, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

      • Surely, much more. Thanks.
        --- Jura 10:07, 26 August 2018 (UTC)