Wikidata:Property proposal/phrase in hiero markup
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Phrase in Hiero Markup[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes
Not done
| Description | hieroglyphs written in Wikihiero syntax | ||||
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| Represents | hieroglyph (Q193762) | ||||
| Data type | String | ||||
| Domain | Jede Phrase, die aus Hieroglyphen besteht. Bsp.: Sakkara-Präfix 1 (Q110630171) | ||||
| Allowed values | WikiHiero syntax. Don't include <hiero></hiero> tags | ||||
| Example 1 | Djedefre (Q209397) → Namensprefix:
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| Example 2 | Khufu (Q161904) → Namensprefix:
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| Example 3 | Saqqara king (Q110550976) → Namenspostfix:
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| Source | Königsliste von Sakkara (Q1054563) | ||||
| Planned use | Entwicklung von Vorlagen, die Elemente von Königslisten darstellen | ||||
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Ancient Egypt (Q10640407) |
Motivation[edit]
Einigen strukturierten Daten können regelmäßig auftretende Phrasen zugeordnet werden. Das können Präfixe für Namen, wie das typische Nisut-Biti vor Thronnamen, oder ein "Möge er ewig leben" hinter dem Königsnamen auf dem Ebers-Kalender, oder eine spezifische Datumsangabe sein. Wann immer eine Phrase nicht der Beschreibung eines Namens, oder sogar nicht einmal einer Person dient, verbietet sich die Verwendung von Name in Hieroglyphen-Syntax (P7383) . Dabei sollte dieses Property als Variante des hier vorgeschlagenen begriffen werden. Vollbracht (talk) 03:25, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- @Vollbracht: is this property designed for lexeme or item? All exemples you gave are items. Pamputt (talk) 10:53, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- So it is for items at least. But for shure we'll find a usage in a lexeme in future. Vollbracht (talk) 16:57, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- What about Hudjefa (Q1300872) or Sedjes (Q1633800)? These are no names. "Hudjefa" means destroyed or wiped out, saying the name of the Pharaoh labeled this way was illegible by the time of 19th Egyptian dynasty already and "sedjes" means "omitted" or "missing". These in actual fact should be lexemes, shouldn't they? Vollbracht (talk) 20:06, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
- Correction: Each name prefix has a meaning, is a title, or what ever. This title is a lexeme, isn't it? So what other Form to put it would you suggest? Vollbracht (talk) 22:07, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
Comment I don't understand. Does this represent something's name? What does "phrase" mean in the title. BrokenSegue (talk) 05:11, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
Not done no support for creation of this property --DannyS712 (talk) 01:38, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
