Wikidata:Property proposal/Trainer von Sportmannschaft

trainer of sports team

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Sports

   Done: coach of sports team (P6087) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Trainer of a sports team
Represents	sports team (Q12973014)
Data type	Item
Template parameter	manageryearsX and managerclubsX in Template:Infobox football biography (Q5616966), cyearsX, cteamX in Template:Infobox basketball biography (Q5831659), current_team and coached_for in Template:Infobox National Hockey League coach (Q20347402) (the parameter names in german wikipedia are a bit more consistent, but those are a few examples in the english speaking wikipedia)...
Domain	human (Q5)
Example 1	Ralf Loose (Q257330) → FC Winterthur (Q201969) / SC Preußen Münster (Q316865) / ..
Example 2	Christian Prokop (Q1081471) → Germany men's national handball team (Q161047) / SC DHfK Leipzig (Q1725148) / ...
Example 3	Jeff Blashill (Q6173366) → United States men's national ice hockey team (Q913651) / Detroit Red Wings (Q194116) / ..
Example 4	Rolf Kern (Q28464746) → Switzerland women's national floorball team (Q3496763) / HC Rychenberg Winterthur (Q688692) / ..
Planned use	Siehe Beispiele...
Robot and gadget jobs	A bot could import the information out of existing infoboxes out of Wikipedia (see also in the examples)
See also	member of sports team (P54)

Motivation

Today we don't have any possibilities to implement trainer/team coach-stations in a Wikidata-Object. Therefore I suggest you this Property similiar to member of sports team (P54).

This proposal originates in an input talk at the Wikidata-Birthday-Meetup in Zurich this evening (here), where I talk out of the sight of a Wikipedian, so I will argumentate out of this view: In the german Wikipedia you can use data out of Wikidata in Infoboxes, including the different stations of sport players. But you can only use Wikidata for a part of the wishable data, what will restrict the use of those data in practice. In articles to sporttrainers are often multiple stations and they are subject to constant change. If those data aren't centralized with Wikidata, they generate additional maintenance work in each Wikipedia. Fundriver (talk) 15:23, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Comment @Fundriver: Did you mean that this is the opposite of head coach (P286)? David (talk) 07:08, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
  • yes, well or you could refine the statement, if a person was asisstance, Co-trainer, goalietrainer or something like that.. Fundriver (talk) 07:26, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
•  Support David (talk) 07:39, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
•  Support We do indeed not have something like that. Alternatives would be to use position held (P39) with values such as manager of VfL Wolfsburg (Q20089909), or employer (P108) and some suitable qualifiers. Both do not convince me. —MisterSynergy (talk) 09:45, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
•  Comment removing the "a" in the English label for uniformity with member of sports team (P54) and fixing capitalization. − Pintoch (talk) 07:53, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Fundriver, MisterSynergy, Pintoch:  Done: coach of sports team (P6087). − Pintoch (talk) 10:43, 6 November 2018 (UTC)