Wikidata:Property proposal/Penza Encyclopedia ID

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Penza Encyclopedia ID[edit]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

RepresentsPenza Encyclopedia (Q4348473)
Data typeExternal identifier
Template parameter|id=penza
Domainhuman (Q5), encyclopedia (Q5292)
Allowed values\S{1,400}
Example 1Penza (Q5540)Пенза
Example 2Sura (Q209891)Сура,_река
Example 3Penza Bicycle Plant (Q4348480)Завод_имени_Фрунзе
Example 4Agarev Aleksey Fedorovich (Q76504793)Агарёв_Алексей_Фёдорович
Sourcehttp://penza-enc.ru
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd][en.wikt][fr.wikt].
Planned useas authority control and identifier
Number of IDs in source1156
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttp://penza-enc.ru/wiki/$1
CountryRussia (Q159)
See alsoRussian Vikidia ID (P9124)
Applicable "stated in"-valuePenza Encyclopedia (Q4348473)
Single-value constraintyes
Distinct-values constraintyes
Wikidata projectWikiProject Russia (Q10803886) - {{Russia properties}} - Russia

Motivation[edit]

The Penza Encyclopedia is one of the few regional encyclopedias in Russia that has a version on the Internet. In addition, it works on the MediaWiki engine - the same as the products of the Wikimedia Foundation. --MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 18:43, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

 Support evs 💬 23:05, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment @MasterRus21thCentury, Evs: what about using a numerical identifier? For example, 3563, instead of Пенза, 4642 instead of Сура,_река, etc. The advantage is this identifier is stable; it is not modified when a page is renamed. Anyway, I have already created Penza Encyclopedia ID (P10036) but before using this property widely, I would preder to discuss which kind of identifier we should use. Pamputt (talk) 20:16, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
По коду на сайте Пензенской энциклопедии найти раньше не мог. Поэтому для меня только вводом кириллицей можно найти статью. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:20, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@MasterRus21thCentury: Indeed, here is the explanation how to find this number. First, you need to type in cyrrilic script the word you are interested in. Then you click on Сведения о странице in the left menu. On this page, you find the "magic" number (Идентификатор страницы). Since you will be one of the user of this property, up to you but I wanted to be sure you do not prefer a more stable identifier. Pamputt (talk) 21:44, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Much better. So, URL template should be http://penza-enc.ru/index.php?curid=$1. evs 💬 08:06, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, so I applied the URL formatter http://penza-enc.ru/index.php?curid=$1. Pamputt (talk) 10:15, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]